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Re: Color blindness

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I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

> I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. Could you share the app name? It would make my life a bit easier (I hate those red/amber/green leds that look identical) :)

I’ve been happy using Cone on iOS after seeing it get brought up on HN previously. It’s paid, but it was worth it to me.

Re: Color blindness

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post #8

I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

I was flashing a router which seemed broken. Each flashing was failing.

Then my brother came by and asked me if I was trying to trigger a failed flash?

WTF?

As you now guessed I was seeing these little motherfucker LEDs as red when they were green.

I hate them with passion. And I work in IT, they are everywhere.

I sent a few days ago a picture of my home fibre converter to my wife when she was out with friends so that she tells me what colors are the tiny LEDs when Internet was down. This is a nightmare.

Re: Color blindness

#53
post #15

I watched a youtube video where a color blind guy in his 50s was given a pair of EnChroma glasses for color blindness, put them on, and had a strong emotional reaction, like a deaf person hearing for the first time. Then I read the wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnChroma ) that says "they do not restore normal color vision, and claims in excess of this by the manufacturer have been characterized as…

Im red green colorblind and have enchroma glasses. They work by reducing the other colors to balance with the reduced colors.

There are lots of reddish brown things that are actually red. I wear mine daily, but if I didnt, I wouldnt miss them.

With the glasses on I can see subtle red tints that I cant normally notice. For whatever reason it doesnt help much with green.

Re: Color blindness

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>> Maybe I can help you understand how that impairment—and it is an impairment, however mild... This is actually a slightly controversial claim. While r/g color-blind individuals do have difficulty viewing colors, they seem to have an easier time seeing through camouflage: A study on the ability to distinguish tones of khaki: https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/in-combat-stick-with-t... There is strong anecdotal ev…

Well sure. I would also assume that if we lived in a world where most people were wheelchair bound, people not in a wheelchair would be at a disadvantage.

Re: Color blindness

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post #15

I watched a youtube video where a color blind guy in his 50s was given a pair of EnChroma glasses for color blindness, put them on, and had a strong emotional reaction, like a deaf person hearing for the first time. Then I read the wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnChroma ) that says "they do not restore normal color vision, and claims in excess of this by the manufacturer have been characterized as…

You might want to spend a few more minutes on finding out what those actually do. Yes, of course they don't restore normal colour vision. They can't possibly work iff that's the goal.

Look at the frequency responses of cone cells in a human with normal colour vision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_vision#/media/File:Cone-...

Those already have a very high overlap. A lot of people with red-green colour blindness still have those two types of cones working quite well individually, but the overlap is even more extreme. What these glasses do is filter out photons that fall in these overlapping regions. This amplifies the difference in responses from different cone cells.

I don't know about what marketing claims were made by that particular company. Maybe some were plain wrong; maybe they were correct but overhyped with a tendency to mislead. Maybe some of those YT videos aren't as ‘organic’ as they seem, but dramatic reenactments incentivised by some PR douche handing out free samples. All I know is that it's not implausible that someone is happy because they can finally tell grey from purple for the first time. I'd encourage interested consumers to check out other brands first, but no idea if those even exist in the consumer eyewear market. Maybe Enchroma are sitting on a patent? Anyway, try before you buy.

By the way, I would have been surprised if that Wikipedia article actually said ‘they can't possibly work‘. That's not the case — it contains a quote with that claim. It's cool to shorten a quotation to just the relevant parts, but please try to not invent ‘alternative facts‘ in the process.

> like a deaf person hearing for the first time

Yeah, definitely not. Once upon a time, my headphones and earphones failed simultaneously and I spent a couple of weeks listening to podcasts through busted earbuds, in shit quality, mostly one ear at a time. Then I got proper IEMs and finally could hear music again. In stereo. Experience all the instruments. That felt quite good. I guess it's more like that. Except it would be for the first time ever. I can see how that would prompt an emotional response.

Re: Color blindness

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>> Maybe I can help you understand how that impairment—and it is an impairment, however mild... This is actually a slightly controversial claim. While r/g color-blind individuals do have difficulty viewing colors, they seem to have an easier time seeing through camouflage: A study on the ability to distinguish tones of khaki: https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/in-combat-stick-with-t... There is strong anecdotal ev…

Well, there used to be jokes about stupid women seeing non existent color differences and making big deal about them. As in women being crazy and their husbands rational having to deal with that.

Meanwhile, color blindness in overwhelmingly make issue.

Re: Color blindness

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Great article. Ummm... dumb question, but... stars are colored? (Color blind poster here).

They are almost impossible to tell apart in a lit sky.

When the sky is dark, red stars are very distinctive, I don't think even color blind people would have a problem. (I am color blind, but I confuse blue and green, not red and green.)

Both yellow and blue stars emit blueish and yellowish light, and are much harder to tell apart.

As an added bonus, red stars are the first to disappear against a lit sky :(

Re: Color blindness

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Interesting thing about people with deuteranomaly, is that in some situations we can utilize luminance and S-cone data better than most people with normal vision. That's how Ishihara hidden plates work (numbers that are visible only with color vision deficiency). But some normal trichromats can also read these hidden plates: https://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2135713

Re: Color blindness

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"Another consequence of all this is that I see very little color in the stars. That makes me sad."

WTF, Am I color blind too? I pass regular color blindness tests with ease, but I have never seen any color in the stars. Not with the naked eye at least.

Re: Color blindness

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post #8

I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

As a kid, before I even knew I was colorblind, I remember experiencing this with my Nintendo DS’ battery LED indicator. I believe it would show green-yellow-red, but I could never tell the difference just looking at normally. I would instead bring it right up to my eye, thereby filling up my entire field of view and I could suddenly tell what color it was.

This article finally gave me insight as to why.

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