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Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by cmehdy » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #14

bialpio wrote: post #6

Immediately made me think of: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/bring... Too long; didn't listen: same thing but related to Alzheimer's disease research where scientists would induce some frequency in the brain of mice and humans to help clean up some "gunk" in the brain that's associated with the disease.

I got interested in this and related research back in 2016 when I heard that Radiolab episode, and then went on to seek out 40 Hz tones on youtube, of which there are a great variety (other useful search terms are "Gamma", "Rife" and "Delta" tones), some "pure" and others with music underlying them or mixed with some other tones. I just sought out the "pure" ones, and sampled them for a while... None of them seemed t…

Six minutes in and nothing for me, for what it's worth. Thanks for sharing though.

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by exikyut » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:00 PM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #67

FlyingSideKick wrote: post #7

I’ve studied Afro-Cuban percussion for 28 years now and I can tell you from experience there are some bata rhythms that definitely make the listener enter into a heavy trance state. Haitian vodun drumming is especially designed for generating trance and out of body experiences in its entirety. If you can find an old recording of Haitian voodoo drums give it a listen using good headphones with your eyes closed, and af…

This has turned into a music recommendation thread, apparently. From a different side of the world, Wardruna has a few 'trancey' tracks; here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F67VZblDrQg

Wow, I'm totally hearing Krigsgaldr (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRg_8NNPTD8) in this, who inspired who?

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by exikyut » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:01 PM UTC

noir_lord wrote: post #81

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has turned into a music recommendation thread, apparently. From a different side of the world, Wardruna has a few 'trancey' tracks; here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F67VZblDrQg

Heilung as as well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CvBSnzSz-o

Welp, left this tab on the add-comment page while getting thoroughly distracted over on YouTube.

Beat me by 38 minutes :D

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by exikyut » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 PM UTC

RikNieu wrote: post #57

ChuckMcM wrote: post #8

This would be a workable explanation for being able to "soul travel" while meditating. When I did the whole Trancendental Meditation thing back in the late 70's it was all about clearing your mind of everything except a repeating mantra. EEG's of people meditating show rhythmic brain activity typical of sleeping. If that is the case (and I'm not saying it is, just noting the potential path here) then it would suggest…

What is "soul travel"?

Likely referring to astral projection.

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by lowdose » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 PM UTC

mam2 wrote: post #55

crawlcrawler wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> find an old recording of Haitian voodoo drums give it a listen using good headphones with your eyes closed, and after about twenty minutes you will enter an altered state I followed your trance recipe to the letter and soon entered a state of mind that on this day was novel to me. It seriously made me happy to be alive and to be human. However, that feeling didn't linger. Now I'm back to my usual miserable self, a…

do you have the link of the music ?

This was a GPT3 response.

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by mam2 » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 PM UTC

lowdose wrote: post #95

mam2 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

do you have the link of the music ?

This was a GPT3 response.

how do you know

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by icanhackit » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 PM UTC

Give it a minute and some decent headphones...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSaKMpN3JC4

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by elric » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:17 PM UTC

A ketamine IV is one of the few things [1] that can stop a cortical spreading depression. Makes me wonder whether these rhythms might potentially be beneficial to people with CSD (e.g. during migraine auras).

[1] Well, the only thing I know of, but I'm mostly ignorant on the subject

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by nandhinianand » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:21 PM UTC

xkgt wrote: post #74

I am not surprised. I may be speaking from ignorance but this seems to be at the center of a lot of spiritual experience. In south India, during village festivals (which are closer to folk religion rather than mainstream Hinduism) there is an event where devotees play music to encourage Goddess descend on an individual and the person eventually acts as if that Goddess has descended and he or she is possessed by the s…

I've experienced and seen this too. I agree, the sensation is probably induced and probably also was used (in the past) as a way to air out grievances anyone might have over other, the type of grievance that would usually be considered too trivial for a local panchayat or law centric solutions.

Re: Scientists say a mind-bending rhythm in the brain can act like ketamine

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Post by ngcazz » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:23 PM UTC

Trasmatta wrote: post #23

FlyingSideKick wrote: post #7

I’ve studied Afro-Cuban percussion for 28 years now and I can tell you from experience there are some bata rhythms that definitely make the listener enter into a heavy trance state. Haitian vodun drumming is especially designed for generating trance and out of body experiences in its entirety. If you can find an old recording of Haitian voodoo drums give it a listen using good headphones with your eyes closed, and af…

There was an interesting section in Michael Pollan's book "How to Change Your Mind" about combining breathwork with drumming. It seems with the right setup that you can induce certain altered states of consciousness that are pretty equivalent to certain psychedelics. I'm definitely interested in seeing what can be done to without the aid of drugs. As someone who had some bad trips that gave me 6 months of anxiety, a…

I'm considering trying LSD soon for its therapeutic potential and am concerned about anxiety as an input and output of tripping, as it were. Would you be open to sharing your experience with me? Sorry if that's out of line.