The AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and 3100 CPU Review: A Budget Gaming Bonanza

Post by pedrocr » Thu, May 07, 2020, 6:21 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #53

pedrocr wrote: post #39

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This is really annoying when building a NAS too. Great value CPUs with ECC support make the configurations great and then you need to spend 50-100€ to just get boot graphics even though the machine will be headless 99% of the time. Buying something second hand or from aliexpress defeats the purpose of trying to build something reliable. The market for low-end discrete GPUs has all but vanished thanks to Intel integra…

> and then you need to spend 50-100€ to just get boot graphics even though the machine will be headless 99% of the time. Buy a serial-over-USB patch cable; connect it from the NAS to your laptop; open an STTY emulator on the laptop. No boot graphics needed.

Post by greendave » Thu, May 07, 2020, 6:24 PM UTC

gameswithgo wrote: post #80

greendave wrote: post #38

I like Anandtech. They have some really great deep dive articles on CPUs and system architecture. Which is why this type of 'test' is just weird. None of the CPUs they compare seem to be in the same price bracket. Many aren't even from the same generation. 7700K? 8086K? 4900HS? Yes, sometimes you have to work with what you have, but c'mon - at least one somewhat comparable CPU would've been nice for reference (i3 810…

its usually faster than the i5 9400F

Post by derefr » Thu, May 07, 2020, 6:29 PM UTC

toast0 wrote: post #64

derefr wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and then you need to spend 50-100€ to just get boot graphics even though the machine will be headless 99% of the time. Buy a serial-over-USB patch cable; connect it from the NAS to your laptop; open an STTY emulator on the laptop. No boot graphics needed.

Still need something for boot graphics for the BIOS, unless non-server motherboards are coming with serial redirection default enabled and nobody mentioned it.

Post by pedrocr » Thu, May 07, 2020, 6:43 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #95

toast0 wrote: post #64

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Still need something for boot graphics for the BIOS, unless non-server motherboards are coming with serial redirection default enabled and nobody mentioned it.

I mean, why not use a server motherboard (i.e. one supporting AMT; not necessarily one that requires RDIMMs) if you're building a NAS? NASes are servers in terms of their workload. Take advantages of the features designed for server customers.

Post by aneutron » Thu, May 07, 2020, 7:00 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #22

hellogoodbye wrote: post #2

Intel can't match this performance to price ratio

Maybe but we can't tell from this article which should have compared against the $75 Core i3-9100F or maybe the $160 Core i5-9400F, instead of filling their graphs full of unavailable, ancient Intel parts like the 4th-gen core i7 that launched in 2014, and then listing the 2014 MSRP as if that was a relevant point of comparison.