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98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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That's an interesting perspective. I guess for those of us on Mac and some Linux-ish OSs, we expect things to just work and look standard. I don't use mac but I think most users are accustomed to applications fitting in with the system, and Apple seems to make a big deal on both macOS and their mobile OSs about this. This is also true on the Gnome desktop where every single Gnome really looks and feels like a Gnome a…

Windows has only been like that recently. The 9x days, and even a good chunk of the XP days meant standard looking applications. Now that CSS and Javascript are so widely used, it would be interesting for OS vendors to provide a default OS theme along with their packaged browser, that allowed some kind of sane default for web applications to use. You could use a native skin, or load your own CSS to customise it. Micr…

It's funny, back in the day it was "It will never be the year of Linux on the desktop until all applications look consistent". People hated the fact that this app was Gtk, that one was Qt and this one here was Motif. But on Windows, it was winapi button windows and common controls all the way (except a few MS apps like Encarta - leading the way in modern flat guis already back in the Windows 3.1 days). The world has turned so far around!

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#94
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Are there similar retro-UI systems for other older interfaces? While I don't have that much nostalgia for Win98 myself, I could see how it could be cute to have similar systems for classic (System 6-7) Mac, Amiga, etc. I've seen websites that try to go for these looks, but I think they were manually done.

I've noticed there are a couple of these now so I threw a quick list up on Github: https://github.com/matt-auckland/retro-css

i found this too, (but i can’t find a demo page) https://github.com/npjg/new-dawn

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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Not anymore for chrome & edge https://blog.chromium.org/2020/03/updates-to-form-controls-a... All part of Google's master plan to commoditize desktop OSs. Everyone outside the US already uses Android, soon your computer will be a Chrome box instead of a Windows/Mac/Linux box. First they did the browser title bar & tab bar integration/styling & removed the normal OS title bar, then they made Chrome OS, now they are re…

> 20 years from now they will have a gigantic monopoly over a huge range of computing. I'm not worried. Mozilla/Microsoft used to be in a similar position with Firefox/IE at one time. Now they're both playing second fiddle to Chrome. The only constant in tech is that everything changes.

Surely Mozilla and Firefox have never been anything more than a geeky alternatives to the lead browser! It's true that once upon a time IE had a monopoly and some dedicated used Firefox, and then Chrome was on the up and up and broke the monopoly and a few people switched to Firefox, but now we're back in the time of monopoly and Chrome is on top.

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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that's really gorgeous. I find windows 95 aesthetics a master piece. I'm not gonna lie, I thought about windows 95 when I was creating FOS, my Fake Operational System "framework". I'm thinking about refactoring it and I'll may incorporate windows color scheme to it. Here's the link if you wanna see what I am talking about. https://github.com/victorqribeiro/fos

I don't know, Windows 95 looked crude even during its day. Functional, but not pleasant. I guess Brutalist would be the term? As soon as there was the ability to skin it, people tried to veer away the default look, with Mac-like styles being a common alternative. People probably have rose-tinted nostalgia for the 95 era because of the nightmare that followed: Windows XP :)

95 and XP both had good scroll bars. XP styling was pretty good for its era. Modern day scroll bars are atrocious on a lot of toolkits.

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#98

Author here! Thanks for all the nice comments (and helpful bug reports). This idea has been in the back of my mind for ~2 years now but I recently got a wave of motivation and decided to ride it - and here we are. Happy to answer any Qs :)

It looks really good. It makes me wish I had a retro project idea I could use it on. It'd be great for a demo-scene website.

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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I noticed that it's using box-shadow for the "3d effect" on buttons and window borders.

I'm a bit disappointed they didn't use the "inset" or "outset" border-style [0] which pretty nobody uses anymore these days. I thought this kind of design is pretty much why these border-styles exist.

[0]: https://htmldog.com/references/css/properties/border-style/

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#100
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I think it would be hilarious to use this in a desktop Electron app and come full circle.

To top it off the bundle size and memory usage would still be more than just running Win95 in a VM...

I ran windows 95 in VirtualBox recently to play an old game. You need a shady kernel hack because modern CPUs are way too fast, and some shady display drivers.

Electron sounds nicer.

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