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98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

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Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#31

That's as refreshing as a dunk in a cold pool. My God we need more UIs that instantly tell you what they can and cannot do. Seems like the modern ones do as much as they can to obscure everything.

Some of the modern web pages are so obscure you have no idea what to click.

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#34

I was going to post the quote about them not stopping to think if they should, but then I actually clicked the link. Wow, that brought back a lot of nostalgia. I haven't even used Windows in 15+ years, but I now realize that I still have a fondness for the interface of my youth ;-)

I might be a few years older than you – I get far stronger nostalgic feelings from Windows 3.x UI than that of Windows 9x.

You're in luck: https://codepen.io/matthijss/pen/wzYjJQ

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering non-formatted HTML files are supposed to be documents, not windows, no? Adding to this: without any specification, the browser should, and does, use the operating system's native controls when rendering controls such as .

Not anymore for chrome & edge https://blog.chromium.org/2020/03/updates-to-form-controls-a... All part of Google's master plan to commoditize desktop OSs. Everyone outside the US already uses Android, soon your computer will be a Chrome box instead of a Windows/Mac/Linux box. First they did the browser title bar & tab bar integration/styling & removed the normal OS title bar, then they made Chrome OS, now they are re…

I ... have no issue with those Chromium changes. I don't want Google to control the web, but I certainly wish there more standards based work went into designing a set of controls that was default across all browsers that was coherent, consistent, and was a safe default if you didn't want a theme. Sadly, Bootstrap become this a while ago, followed by a plethora of other web "defaults" that you just plunk into the top of your HTML file to get a whole new design without changing much.

I'm hoping Firefox Foundation or something like that will do some work in this area.

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#38

I was going to post the quote about them not stopping to think if they should, but then I actually clicked the link. Wow, that brought back a lot of nostalgia. I haven't even used Windows in 15+ years, but I now realize that I still have a fondness for the interface of my youth ;-)

I might be a few years older than you – I get far stronger nostalgic feelings from Windows 3.x UI than that of Windows 9x.

That was actually my first OS (well, my first OS on my own personal machine, growing up we had older OSs like Commodore 64).

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#39
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that's really gorgeous. I find windows 95 aesthetics a master piece. I'm not gonna lie, I thought about windows 95 when I was creating FOS, my Fake Operational System "framework". I'm thinking about refactoring it and I'll may incorporate windows color scheme to it. Here's the link if you wanna see what I am talking about. https://github.com/victorqribeiro/fos

I think it's really the NeXTSTEP aesthetic.

Re: 98.css – design system for building faithful recreations of Windows 98 UIs

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not anymore for chrome & edge https://blog.chromium.org/2020/03/updates-to-form-controls-a... All part of Google's master plan to commoditize desktop OSs. Everyone outside the US already uses Android, soon your computer will be a Chrome box instead of a Windows/Mac/Linux box. First they did the browser title bar & tab bar integration/styling & removed the normal OS title bar, then they made Chrome OS, now they are re…

I ... have no issue with those Chromium changes. I don't want Google to control the web, but I certainly wish there more standards based work went into designing a set of controls that was default across all browsers that was coherent, consistent, and was a safe default if you didn't want a theme. Sadly, Bootstrap become this a while ago, followed by a plethora of other web "defaults" that you just plunk into the top…

That's an interesting perspective. I guess for those of us on Mac and some Linux-ish OSs, we expect things to just work and look standard. I don't use mac but I think most users are accustomed to applications fitting in with the system, and Apple seems to make a big deal on both macOS and their mobile OSs about this. This is also true on the Gnome desktop where every single Gnome really looks and feels like a Gnome application - it's very coherent, and though I am not a fan of Gnome, I really enjoyed that part of the experience when I used it recently. On KDE this is also true, where every single application, whether Qt or GTK, looks like it's made from the same components.

And I think that web applications should be like this. They may be delivered differently, but they should be part of the system like everything else. Making the UI elements look like the OS ones is good.

I especially notice it on KDE, since on the default KDE theme the checkboxes and radiobuttons and scrollbars look a bit different from most other OSs and the Gnome default theme. But in the browser my checkboxes and radiobuttons and dropdowns look exactly like every other checkbox and radiobutton and dropdown on my computer, and the scrollbars have the distinctive KDE look too.

Most web apps do behave differently from normal applications, and also have stupid company-specific theming, but it's nice having at least parts of them fit in.

I suspect those who come from a Windows background will not have the same opinion, because on Windows basically every app is a mess of different themes and window decorations.

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