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X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by sigjuice »

_ph_ wrote: post #77
fragmede wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That glosses over RedHat's strong arm sales tactics of the community, and rules-lawyering the GPL. Redistributing "their" source, as allowed by the GPL, is liable for your support license to not get renewed. And where's the Red Hat kernel source in a digestible format? I haven't followed recently, but they were at one point distributing their diffs to the mainline kernel as a single giant patch file and arguing that…

I don't know the support contract details from RedHat, but they are one very large contributor to the kernel and other parts of the eco system as they employ lots of the contributors. Also, their source is freely available, they call it CentOS.

RHEL and CentOS are different things. RHEL source is available on its own, independent of CentOS. e.g. http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/7Server/en/os/...

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by erikbye »

jdellinger wrote: post #41

Does anyone want to share how they use the WSL2 & X-Server combination? In my case, I'm mostly happy with the VSCode WSL2 integration. I keep all my projects on the linux fs and it is fast to work with. The only thing which annoys me is the window management in Windows. Too much Mouse movement and random ALT-TAB-ing. I've never got i3 to work with a Windows x server on multiple displays with high dpi. X401 also only…

As for Windows native window management, FancyZones is better than nothing. You can overlay zones, I have split each monitor in half with two zones each, then overlayed a bunch of smaller zones for stuff like terminal windows, etc.

https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/tree/master/src/modul...

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by arpa »

jiggawatts wrote: post #59
datnoblesavage wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What benefits do you see from running windows? I really see none as a software dev and os enthusiast. The only reason I kept windows so long was for a game that I stopped playing 2 years ago, and the only reason I have to use it now is because the company I currently work in has made us use it. WSL makes me embarrassed to show my work colleague how good linux/vim/tmux really is (but that might be because the laptop's…

It's always bemuses me to see some Linux developers talk like there is literally no other option, and that all 'real' development is done on Linux. Meanwhile, in the Real World(tm), something like 80% of all software is developed for Windows or other non-Linux operating systems. Linux is just the most popular, at the moment, with a small subset of developers in a certain age-range. Mostly web-developers working outsi…

> Linux is just the most popular, at the moment, with a small subset of developers in a certain age-range. Mostly web-developers working outside of the enterprise environments, such as startups. These are people that think MySQL is a real database, PHP is a proper programming language, and Bash is the only shell.

And MSSQL has great features, like lack of pagination, VBA is a proper language, ASP.NET was a proper framework, IIS is not a complete shitshow, and enterprise-grade is not a term describing overpriced bullshit software. Get your head out of your ass.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by erikbye »

saboot wrote: post #63

I was convinced to buy this when I came across their article on a simple and fast setup for getting Linux gui apps to run along side my windows desktop https://x410.dev/cookbook/wsl/xidekick/ Been using that for about a year now, love it

It's about the same setup for all the other servers.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by ketozhang »

pasokan wrote: post #87
int_19h wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They used to sell it for much cheaper - way back when I got it, I'm pretty sure it was under $10. If they raised it that much, surely that's a sign of demand? I have little doubt that it's a polished fork, but what ultimately matters is the value added - in this case, the value is, "it just works". The only thing I had to do manually was to configure DISPLAY=:0 system-wide in my WSL.

Can you please tell me the exact location of the file to configure the system-wide WSL? Would it be the equivalent of /etc/profile?

The ~/.bashrc file usually.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by erikbye »

Jonnax wrote: post #82
29athrowaway wrote: post #28

I hope this motivates people to fully transition to Linux. There's a lot of FUD around Linux. Just install it and see for yourself. You'll never need Windows again.

What if I want to play a game? I gotta hope proton supports it. Or use Photoshop, Lightroom or any other non Linux creative application. I guess I gotta learn the free alternatives. Also how's video acceleration in the browsers? Can I play a 4k60fps video? Is there HDR support? I use Linux everyday. But misrepresenting the desktop experience isn't going to get people to switch.

> I use Linux everyday. But misrepresenting the desktop experience isn't going to get people to switch.

I really enjoy the endless battle with tearing, which sometimes is fixed, other times not. I also enjoy the battle of multi-monitor setup with different DPIs and scaling issues, mixing 1440p and 4k monitors.

As for browser hardware acceleration, hell, even on Windows, Firefox (on my end, and for many others) have stopped being able to play Youtube 4K videos without stutter.

As for games, those who want to game from their Linux install without using Proton can always run a Windows VM with GPU passthrough, that should add fun for days (in terms of configuration).

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by meddlepal »

thejosh wrote: post #66
lerpapoo wrote: post #3

windows on linux or linux on windows...WHO will WIN?

What do actual users who would want to run Linux actually run? Probably games? Maybe office?

I dual boot right now and hop into Windows only for games. Wine is janky so that's not a good solution.

I've been a pretty devoted Linux user for close to 20 years but I'm starting to seriously consider switching to a WSL setup in the future.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by sabrehagen »

zetalemur wrote: post #92
sabrehagen wrote: post #86

If someone could make Windows applications render on an X Server I'd be so happy.

That's what Wine does (and it often works surprisingly well).

I run Windows applications that require USB hardware, and Wine does not support USB devices. so I was hoping for native Windows execution rendered to an X Server.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Post by stragies »

raverbashing wrote: post #67
syockit wrote: post #60

I (and most of my colleagues) stopped using vcxsrv at my workplace since we moved from Qt4 to Qt5. At some point in between, Qt stopped supporting native X11 painting[1] which means all of the graphics are now drawn as bitmap at server side and sent in whole to the client. That easily hoses up our network. The problem is more exarcebated now that Japan has declared state of emergency and everyone is urged to work fro…

X over anything but a local network (and even then) is hard to make it work right. VNC and similar systems have the right idea about remote desktop access.

W.r.t to working principle/protocol, VNC is to X11 what MOSH is to SSH-Terminal, with RDP taking the best of both worlds.

The RDP-server, and -client implementations are mature on all common platforms, with a well-supported common minimum protocol version support.

For anything but localhost I try to use RDP.

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