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Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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windows on linux or linux on windows...WHO will WIN?

Is there even a doubt? Windows has a chance at supporting the open, documented interfaces of Linux. Linux has no chance at supported the closed, undocumented interfaces of Linux.

> the closed, undocumented interfaces of Linux.

Perhaps you meant "Windows"?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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They are asking $50 for something that there are other open source solutions for. It would be interesting to find out how much of the original source code is the developers and how much is just repackaging of one of the multitude of open source X servers for Windows that are currently available. Originally thinking it was another open source project, I looked at the website to see if there were some features that wou…

The most successful open source company ever (RedHat) made their whole business packaging up open source in a nice manner.

People will pay for convenience and polish. Also, i would guess that Windows users are not likely to be free software purists and just wants something that works with a minimum of fuss.

The price of software should be based on the value it provides to the user, not on what it cost to make it.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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They are asking $50 for something that there are other open source solutions for. It would be interesting to find out how much of the original source code is the developers and how much is just repackaging of one of the multitude of open source X servers for Windows that are currently available. Originally thinking it was another open source project, I looked at the website to see if there were some features that wou…

What's wrong with selling software?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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I hope this motivates people to fully transition to Linux. There's a lot of FUD around Linux. Just install it and see for yourself. You'll never need Windows again.

Your table is ready for you, sir.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050924142700/http://reddit.com...

Did you know that Voyager 1 has just reached the edge of the solar system after 28 years in space, while Microsoft's nightmare inches closer to reality??!

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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I (and most of my colleagues) stopped using vcxsrv at my workplace since we moved from Qt4 to Qt5. At some point in between, Qt stopped supporting native X11 painting[1] which means all of the graphics are now drawn as bitmap at server side and sent in whole to the client. That easily hoses up our network. The problem is more exarcebated now that Japan has declared state of emergency and everyone is urged to work fro…

X over anything but a local network (and even then) is hard to make it work right.

VNC and similar systems have the right idea about remote desktop access.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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They are asking $50 for something that there are other open source solutions for. It would be interesting to find out how much of the original source code is the developers and how much is just repackaging of one of the multitude of open source X servers for Windows that are currently available. Originally thinking it was another open source project, I looked at the website to see if there were some features that wou…

The most successful open source company ever (RedHat) made their whole business packaging up open source in a nice manner. People will pay for convenience and polish. Also, i would guess that Windows users are not likely to be free software purists and just wants something that works with a minimum of fuss. The price of software should be based on the value it provides to the user, not on what it cost to make it.

That glosses over RedHat's strong arm sales tactics of the community, and rules-lawyering the GPL. Redistributing "their" source, as allowed by the GPL, is liable for your support license to not get renewed. And where's the Red Hat kernel source in a digestible format? I haven't followed recently, but they were at one point distributing their diffs to the mainline kernel as a single giant patch file and arguing that it was okay. It may abide by the letter of the GPL, but it's against the spirit of interoperability.

RedHat's the first billion dollar Linux company, but first and foremost it's a business. Their sales people are aggressive and their lawyer's hungry. Support contracts don't exactly fly off the shelves, especially when there's a huge community of experts.

How many people do you know that have given money to Canonical for Ubuntu?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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They are asking $50 for something that there are other open source solutions for. It would be interesting to find out how much of the original source code is the developers and how much is just repackaging of one of the multitude of open source X servers for Windows that are currently available. Originally thinking it was another open source project, I looked at the website to see if there were some features that wou…

The most successful open source company ever (RedHat) made their whole business packaging up open source in a nice manner. People will pay for convenience and polish. Also, i would guess that Windows users are not likely to be free software purists and just wants something that works with a minimum of fuss. The price of software should be based on the value it provides to the user, not on what it cost to make it.

In general.. if things are being priced then the price should be based on what it costs to make it.. for the price floor.

Otherwise you get a lot of perverse incentives.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most successful open source company ever (RedHat) made their whole business packaging up open source in a nice manner. People will pay for convenience and polish. Also, i would guess that Windows users are not likely to be free software purists and just wants something that works with a minimum of fuss. The price of software should be based on the value it provides to the user, not on what it cost to make it.

That glosses over RedHat's strong arm sales tactics of the community, and rules-lawyering the GPL. Redistributing "their" source, as allowed by the GPL, is liable for your support license to not get renewed. And where's the Red Hat kernel source in a digestible format? I haven't followed recently, but they were at one point distributing their diffs to the mainline kernel as a single giant patch file and arguing that…

> ...rules-lawyering the GPL. Redistributing "their" source, as allowed by the GPL, is liable for your support license to not get renewed.

There isn't anything wrong with that at all. If someone is undermining RedHat's business model it is reasonable for RedHat not to support them.

The spirit of the GPL is the source code should be available and the user can do what they like with it. RedHat makes the source code available and the user can do whatever they like with it. No principle says RedHat has to like what people do with their GPL-ed code. Quite the reverse is expected, in fact.

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