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Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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It seems odd that there are no cases reported in Laos, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Indonesia. https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati...

Possibly these countries have no way of monitoring and reporting COVID-19? In which case we are likely to have new, large clusters added in the coming weeks.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Reminder that WHO publishes a daily situation report about COVID-19, which is calmer and more informative than most headlines/media stories: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

>calmer and more informative

Full of self reported made up numbers.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This virus, coupled with modern day speed of travel *Could be unprecedented. I don't enjoy your snark, I think this is a very serious issue!

The comment was not snark, it was based on your hyperbolic statement that this is unprecedented. But whatever doctor, like any coronavirus, hygiene and good considerate practices will help. The mortality rate is still around 2%-ish and hugely dependent on the health condition of the patient at time of contracting. Its annoying, its serious and it's spreading for sure. But it is not Armageddon-scale unprecedented cont…

I didn't make the original comment.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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post #85

Reminder that WHO publishes a daily situation report about COVID-19, which is calmer and more informative than most headlines/media stories: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

What is the difference between Figures 2 and 3 (besides n )?

Fig 2 shows onset of symptoms. Fig 3 shows date that they were confirmed to have Covid-19.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Is it time to start treating this like a big deal yet? Their first case was three weeks ago and 50 deaf already? This virus is unprecedented and it is only responsible for individuals with means to start preparing. No reason to wait for the government to tell you to do so. Plus each person that does it early is one less for the potential store rush.

I don’t know in what way it isn’t treated as a big deal. There are daily updates from every country; the news covers the epidemic in detail; China quarantined tens of millions of people; major trade shows are being cancelled. Unless you literally mean bubonic-plague levels of panic, I’m not sure what else remains to be done in places where the disease has not yet fully spread.

I personally know experts in virology who are not working on a vaccine for this virus.

Until all labs, equipment and experts are reassigned from whatever they are doing to finding a vaccine or cure, humanity is far from 'maximum response'.

Assuming that world leaders are working in the best interests of their populations, that leads me to believe that whatever these experts and labs are currently studying is considered more important than this. Or to say it another way, world leaders have decided the hundreds of millions of dollars necessary to persuade these experts and labs to switch to studying this virus isn't worth the money. Which means those leaders believe that either the virus won't hit pandemic levels, or if it does, the economic impact will be less than hundreds of millions of dollars.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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post #17

I guess Iran is like the South Korea problem spread across the entire country. The vast majority of cases in South Korea are in a religious sect. For Iran mosques are places where so many are in close proximity.

There's a cluster in Singapore that spread at a church. But what does it mean? In Berlin or Paris it could suddenly spread on the trains, or at a spectator sport event. Being secular isn't going to stop you from breathing in air that other people are breathing out. Everyone's susceptible to this.

Doesn't spread by air from all current evidence. Spreads by saliva and nasal fluid droplets.

In the churches in Singapore, it is thought that the spread happened from the congregation eating food from shared bowls after the service. Communion service in catholic churches is also a potential vector. There are two big church linked clusters in Singapore.

Langar in Sikh gurdwaras are probably less risky because generally cutlery and plates are not shared but best to be cautious about shared/buffet type setups. Public transport is considered relatively safer in Singapore especially as cleaning has been steeped up.

There's a story in Hong Kong about the whole big family getting it after sharing a traditional Chinese meal.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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post #91

It seems odd that there are no cases reported in Laos, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Indonesia. https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati... Possibly these countries have no way of monitoring and reporting COVID-19? In which case we are likely to have new, large clusters added in the coming weeks.

The thing is, although COVID-19 has a long incubation period in some cases, in many cases it has a short one. And about 15-20% of people will end up in hospital. So it can only spread under the radar for a limited period of time before it becomes obvious. The symptoms are well known by this point, dry cough, fever, shortness of breath.

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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I believ the sanction put on Iran by the Trump administration is of the main factors for very high mortality rate of Covid-19. This has caused suffering not just for the Iranian people but the whole region as now Iran lacks the equipments and medicines to put the epidemic under control. But I doubt the current President cares about that...

https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/10/29/maximum-pressure/us-ec...

Re: Iran lawmaker says 50 dead from coronavirus in city of Qom

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a flu going around in The Netherlands right now, it progresses like this: - Day 1: Fever, fatigue and muscle pain with a dry itchy cough. - Day 2+: Nausea and diarrhea can be experienced as well as the first day symptoms. It takes about a week for the worst of the symptoms to die down however the stomach ache, cough and light tiredness last weeks. My entire family and most of my son's class at school has had…

> My wife is, after 3 weeks, still really ill. Probably because she's working full time In my opinion it’s high time to call in sick. She is neither helping herself nor her coworkers by going to work.

If that's an option.

I lot of people cannot call in sick.

Being sick means being unpaid, and many people cannot afford to go unpaid.

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