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China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by koheripbal »

yorwba wrote: post #12
socceroos wrote: post #2

Setting aside quality assurance and risk assessment/mitigation, I'm seriously impressed with the speed in which they construct complex infrastructure. The are some good reasons we don't quite go at this pace, but there are lots of good lessons about expediency to be gleaned as well.

This is exactly the opposite of complex infrastructure. They're reducing a hospital down to the essentials: beds under a roof. If it weren't winter, they could've gotten away with just using tents, too.

I'm still not convinced they aren't just building a simple morgue... or perhaps even just a large covered grave.

...all we see so far is a TON of excavators digging a hole.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by koheripbal »

duxup wrote: post #69
butler14 wrote: post #68

Two weeks ago it wasn't human transmissible

I think the more accurate phrase was that it wasn't human transmissible .. as far as anyone knew / there wasn't evidence to show it was. I think with any new virus or etc folks focus on what they know at that time ... and effectively waiting for testing / what they observe to enhance their understanding.

No. It was shown that human to human transmission happened in December.

The issue is that the Chinese gov't threatened prison to anyone who reported it.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by thedudeabides5 »

JulianMorrison wrote: post #80
peterkelly wrote: post #25

Can you imagine something like this happening in America?

I can imagine it being much, much worse in America. You have an underclass who cannot afford to go to hospital or see a doctor, which extends well up into the low end of the working middle class. You have employers who penalize workers for self-quarantine. You have vicious mistreatment of undocumented people that makes them scared to draw official notice anywhere.

You also just have much less dense populations.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by beamatronic »

Symbiote wrote: post #88
beamatronic wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why aren’t all the alarm bells being sounded around the world?

It's headline news in every national newspaper worldwide. What more do you expect? (I checked five European papers from different countries, then five from African countries. It's on the homepage on all of them.)

Well I’m honestly surprised Trump hasn’t closed all the borders yet. It seems like he finally has the excuse.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by jxramos »

coronavirus, where does this stack in the legacy of nasty viruses that come out every few years? I can remember several off hand making the news, maybe I'm lumping some mistakenly. Anyone know a place where a timeline and scale of each pandemic (is that what they're known as?) can be found?

    * swine flu
    * SARS
    * bird flu
    * H1N1

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by gamblor956 »

jialutu wrote: post #79
dspillett wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the area is officially locked down, blocking transport by land, air, & water, how are they planning to deliver the masks? I assume there are exceptions made for appropriate officials and medical personnel, if adequate quarantine rues are followed, do the group attracting the crowd funding have access to this channel? Or drone based deliver perhaps (assuming they don't break the transport in/out rule despite not be…

So apparently it's not a full quarantine like everyone suggests, but more of a partial quarantine. My understanding is that deliveries to the local government is not accepted, so they are sending this straight to the hospitals. I also hear the logistics are set up, with more information currently available in the wechat group set up for this.

This is a full quarantine per all media reporting, including Chinese party apparatus. People are allowed in but are not allowed to leave once they are in Wuhan.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by gamblor956 »

oefrha wrote: post #52
BiasRegularizer wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.

Your original link does say “in stock” at least for me. “Usually ships within 4 to 5 days”, but this isn’t a Prime/FBA product so it’s not clear if that’s just business as usual. Edit: What the hell with downvotes on a stated fact?

Not only were they in stock for me but I could have had them (the N95 ones without holes) delivered by the end of day today...

Going to call bullshit on the claim that they're sold out in the US.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by [deleted] »

hatenberg wrote: post #50
FatalLogic wrote: post #33

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>Can you imagine something like this happening in America? A new, dangerous respiratory virus mutating in the overcrowded and unhygienic environment of a poorly-managed city market, and then spreading almost unchecked for six weeks, amidst continual denials of its serious nature? No, probably not.

No probably not... crammed homeless in city parks giving each other Hep, city streets disinfected from feces, leprosy being endemic in parts of the homeless population. People unable to afford life-saving medication or unable to take time off work due to lack of medical leave, choosing to carry their viruses to work. People also never eat Armadillo meet and come down with the plague. Large parts of the population dis…

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Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Post by gamblor956 »

hatenberg wrote: post #58
_iyig wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the plight of the homeless in the U.S. is great discussion fodder, I don't see what relevance it has to meat market hygiene in China, or the state's role in publishing accurate public health information.

Yes, thank god we have no head of state questioning vaccines and no federal agencies dismantling health related regulations. thank god No, health epidemics could never thrive in our amazing country because we have safe meat markets

You're right, they couldn't, because the US has much stricter safety regulations to prevent stuff like this from happening.

Unlike China, the West tries to learn from its mistakes. It's why we have so much bureaucracy. The cost of red tape seems excessive until shit like this happens in the places that don't have red tape.

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