Btw, @dang. It would be better if we change the title to say Boeing 737-800 just to emphasise this is a different plane than Max.
Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
91–100 of 220 posts
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unverified video There’s a lot of disinformation going on online. We saw this in the recent UK election, there are many players wanting to spread lies. I just hope our reputable journalists are up to the job. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/janelytvynenko/false-an...
You mean the reputable journalists at BuzzFeed?
BuzzFeed News is not BuzzFeed. They've won several well-deserved journalistic awards.
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hard to be conclusive with that video. Iran's own state media says the engine was on fire. Not necessarily contradicted by the video. https://en.irna.ir/news/83625750/147-Iranians-32-foreigners-...
Don't you think it should take them at least a few days to determine a preliminary cause of the crash?
The pilots of the plane would be in constant contact with the nearest airport during and right after take-off, especially when there are technical problems.
It's not hard to imagine the conversation would involve like:-
PILOT: One of the engines has failed catastrophically, we need to make an emergency landing, can you clear the runway back in Tehran or is there another airport we can go to?
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#94Not related to the Iran-US conflict, it seems.
How many new 737's drop down from the sky in a fireball with pieces falling away? All of this without pilot reporting any issues. Things to consider: 1. Iran launched an attack on US bases, their AA forces were on alert 2. Flight was delayed for over an hour, this could potentially appear as an unknown aircraft to an on edge AA crew (if they are operating the missiles each day, they know the routine flights) 3. 737s…
>737s don't fall out from the sky in a fireball
You can make this same argument every time a flaw in an airplane is found for the first time.
"The 737 MAX doesn't just dive itself into the ocean."
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#95A three year old Boeing 737-800, which does not have any known safety issues. It feels deeply implausible that this airplane would simply crash due to mechanical issues two minutes after taking off from Tehran just hours after Iran retaliated against the United States's assassination of General Qassem Soleimani, but then again there was also an earthquake in Iran just a few hours ago, so I guess maybe these things ju…
What I learned is that the stellar decades-long safety record of an airplane can be ruined by a single fuck-up during service - even when servicing another airplane [1].
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#96And nobody gives a damn about people who might have got killed there, instead puts up their theories on what would have gone wrong.
- After reading the comments.
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#97Happening hours after Iran's strike against bases in Iraq raises the obvious question: is this in any way related to the strikes or a coincidence? I'm guessing it'll be at least a few months before we hear about the why but I wonder if there will be additional focus on it due to the recent tensions.
I won't point fingers at anyone, but: - A 3-year old 737 operated by a reputable airline does not just turn into a huge fireball mid-air and crash like a rock like we see it in the video: https://youtu.be/xRc31DTStwA - It just doesn't happen. - Iran declaring it a "technical error" just hours after the crash is dubious/untrustworthy to say the least. We need a indepedend aviation agency to look at the case, investiga…
It happened to Concorde?
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#98Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Edit: Never mind! I commented about a tweet that suggested the fireball was maybe a missle but it looks like people who know better agree that's not the case
Interesting idea but I don't think it's true. Unless I am missing something, the "plane dot" is at or almost at horizon level. After the explosion you can see that at the position of the "dot" is something that looks like a building or a tower. Light from that could be the dot that we saw. Another thing is that the "fireball" seems to be losing parts, I'm not sure if missile trails leave puffs of flames behind, but t…
Agree. Rockets are quicker and with more compact engines, not flaming fireballs. The parts falling from the fireball could be the result of an engine fire caused by structural failure of the engine or collision with something (such as a bird strike, although I think that is less likely as it's nighttime).
Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The 737-800 is a Boeing from a different era. Proper engineering.
But it was built 3 years ago. Does proper engineering prevent future failures if the assembly process becomes flawed at a later time? For example using cheaper materials, ignoring cracks, not properly training new employees etc.
What does this kind of baseless speculation accomplish?