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Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

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Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#12
(Edit: We don't know what caused this incident. Speculation follows. It's best to not form conclusions until the experts examine the evidence.)

It looks like it was shot down with an air defense missile. You can see the plane on fire as it falls to the earth.

Video taken during the crash, the plane is clearly engulfed in flames:

https://mobile.twitter.com/isna_farsi/status/121475622529397...

Video of the aftermath / wreckage:

https://twitter.com/Looper_i/status/1214772061580615681

https://twitter.com/Looper_i/status/1214773020885041152

It might have been mistakenly triggered as part of Iran's anti-aircraft missile defense or a similar system. The plane probably wasn't safely diverted from an active war zone, and Iran is already in a heightened state of watchful defense.

Similar incidents:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 (TIL; caused by the USA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#15
A three year old Boeing 737-800, which does not have any known safety issues. It feels deeply implausible that this airplane would simply crash due to mechanical issues two minutes after taking off from Tehran just hours after Iran retaliated against the United States's assassination of General Qassem Soleimani, but then again there was also an earthquake in Iran just a few hours ago, so I guess maybe these things just happen occasionally? I hope.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/iran-earthquake-busheh...

Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#16
post #2

Not related to the Iran-US conflict, it seems.

Could be e.g. the Iranian's shooting iit down due to hairline trigger Iranian defense (or otherwise a mistake identifying the civilian aircraft as enemy aircraft) - in this case, I would say it IS related to the conflict, even though it is entirely on one side.

Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#17
post #12

(Edit: We don't know what caused this incident. Speculation follows. It's best to not form conclusions until the experts examine the evidence.) It looks like it was shot down with an air defense missile. You can see the plane on fire as it falls to the earth. Video taken during the crash, the plane is clearly engulfed in flames: https://mobile.twitter.com/isna_farsi/status/121475622529397... Video of the aftermath /…

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Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#18
post #12

(Edit: We don't know what caused this incident. Speculation follows. It's best to not form conclusions until the experts examine the evidence.) It looks like it was shot down with an air defense missile. You can see the plane on fire as it falls to the earth. Video taken during the crash, the plane is clearly engulfed in flames: https://mobile.twitter.com/isna_farsi/status/121475622529397... Video of the aftermath /…

Hard to be conclusive with that video. Iran's own state media says the engine was on fire. Not necessarily contradicted by the video. https://en.irna.ir/news/83625750/147-Iranians-32-foreigners-...

Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#19
It’s being reported there was an “engine failure”. I’d assume that engine failure and fire detection systems are pretty good, not to mention that pilots train on engine fires/failure and single engine procedures regularly.

Are there situations where pulling the fire handle to extinguish a fire or shutting down an engine wouldn’t be adequate to alleviate some sort of grave failure?

Re: Iran crash: Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board

#20
post #12

(Edit: We don't know what caused this incident. Speculation follows. It's best to not form conclusions until the experts examine the evidence.) It looks like it was shot down with an air defense missile. You can see the plane on fire as it falls to the earth. Video taken during the crash, the plane is clearly engulfed in flames: https://mobile.twitter.com/isna_farsi/status/121475622529397... Video of the aftermath /…

Unverified video

There’s a lot of disinformation going on online. We saw this in the recent UK election, there are many players wanting to spread lies.

I just hope our reputable journalists are up to the job.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/janelytvynenko/false-an...

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