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The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

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Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

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I know it's against the rules to tell people to read the article, but I would encourage everyone to read the article. It specifically says this is a potential threat to > "elected officials, candidates, political campaigns, [and] political parties" not to the general public. The potential threat is for someone at Candidate_1's campaign taking selfies with the app, that then uploads them to Russian servers where the R…

>The potential threat is for someone at Candidate_1's campaign taking selfies with the app, that then uploads them to Russian servers where the Russian government can see them and can also see what's in the background (sensitive documents?) good old days just less than 20 years ago back at Sun when we were strictly instructed that the computer monitors must be off when the photos would be taken. How times and basic n…

This really does not look like a photo of a monitor. Looks instead much more like the original photo?

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#92
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's certainly better than giving your face to sketchy apps from Russia or China.

It's not better to have your face or other data in a database within reach of your own government. Your government has power over you, other governments do not.

The FBI very specifically is concerned about public/elected officials. You don't think other governments might be interested in data about elected officials?

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#93

I know it's against the rules to tell people to read the article, but I would encourage everyone to read the article. It specifically says this is a potential threat to > "elected officials, candidates, political campaigns, [and] political parties" not to the general public. The potential threat is for someone at Candidate_1's campaign taking selfies with the app, that then uploads them to Russian servers where the R…

> I know it's against the rules to tell people to read the article, but I would encourage everyone to read the article.

It's not against the rules at all, so thank you for the encouragement! I will go read the article.

What the guidelines warn against is something different: Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#94

Russian laws obligates all companies and individuals to provide government access to any data, hardware or applications upon initial request or better have backdoor. All information must be stored for minimum 5 years and provided in un-encrypted form or decryption mechanisms must be supplied.

0-10 how naive are you?

I think you might have misread the comment(?) The GP was describing good reasons why the App shouldn't be trusted.

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#95
post #5

Looks like the FBI designated FaceApp as a threat because of its crazy data policy and its Russian origin. Even though I think it's a really shady app, that's a pretty low bar.

Not during an election year, at a point in time that sees _much_ heavier use of these apps than even 4 years ago, no.

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Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#96

The best measure would be for “good actors” (universities, government research agencies, the New York Times) to provide a free FaceApp-type app. It’s like a weekend-hackathon of work and can be prioritized by the app stores.

Any reason why you singled out the NYT specifically?

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#97

I know it's against the rules to tell people to read the article, but I would encourage everyone to read the article. It specifically says this is a potential threat to > "elected officials, candidates, political campaigns, [and] political parties" not to the general public. The potential threat is for someone at Candidate_1's campaign taking selfies with the app, that then uploads them to Russian servers where the R…

That's only the most obvious of targets - - there are many other possibilities, some yet to be imagined. What about mafia style hits ? As in the Russian agents who nerve gassed their adversaries in Britain ?

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

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post #91
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The potential threat is for someone at Candidate_1's campaign taking selfies with the app, that then uploads them to Russian servers where the Russian government can see them and can also see what's in the background (sensitive documents?) good old days just less than 20 years ago back at Sun when we were strictly instructed that the computer monitors must be off when the photos would be taken. How times and basic n…

This really does not look like a photo of a monitor. Looks instead much more like the original photo?

The flash reflection and the head and shoulders shadow suggest monitor mounted at the eye level.

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#99
post #71

I know it's against the rules to tell people to read the article, but I would encourage everyone to read the article. It specifically says this is a potential threat to > "elected officials, candidates, political campaigns, [and] political parties" not to the general public. The potential threat is for someone at Candidate_1's campaign taking selfies with the app, that then uploads them to Russian servers where the R…

Can apps still get information that identifies the specific device? If so, another possible threat model could be more about identifying who uses what device rather than anything specifically in the photos themselves. For example, I already have a database of high value target's faces built from political sources like house.gov. Now I do facial recognition between that set of faces and the FaceApp faces. That allows…

I was thinking more along the lines of hacking because now you have a face and can identify who they work for and that they may have valuable info being a part of X person’s political campaign. Potentially you’d then install some silent update or use some new exploit to gain access to the rest of their phone. Anyone know if that is possible?

Re: The FBI considers FaceApp to be a potential counterintelligence threat [pdf]

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The threat model is that this photo is shared with the Russian government and then the Russian government can match American citizens (or potentially people working in intelligence), and then using that in facial recognition programs. I.e. they can differentiate Americans (insert x country) from their own citizens and know who to watch more carefully. This is a legitimate threat model. I'm not sure why you think it w…

A picture, that has no good associated data about the user, is a real threat? Heaven forbid Russia figures out how to take pictures in public places

If you read the (very brief) brief, it specifically mentions this mostly in regard to US politicians and public figures
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