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Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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I am curious how the Gitlab is so valuable. I've never used the service, but HN posts keep me informed superficially. Could someone explain the valuation?

Because Microsoft paid for GitHub -- since GitLab is well positioned to compete with GitHub, cash rich companies like Apple or Google could be interested purely to keep up the Jones's.

I am not sure what would they do with Gitlab. How do you think Gitlab fits into Apple's portfolio?

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Reasons for initially switching to Gitlab: - Pricing structure made much more sense than Github's at the time. I would've been willing to pay for Github, but their pricing for private repos (now unlimited on the free plan) scaled steeply for any reasonable number. - In addition to private repos, their free plan still offers many features that Github's free plan lacks, and their paid plans have many more features agai…

I haven't tried Gitlab sites yet - what makes it better than Github's?

Note: I haven't yet looked into Github Actions in depth, so if there's GH Pages integration there, some of the below may no longer be true.

Github's is tightly coupled to Jekyll, and—more specifically—to this single Gem https://github.com/github/pages-gem Also, this might have changed, but last time I interacted with it, it lacked any real control over your source repo structure: there's some arcane rules about either giving it a certain name under a certain GH org, or using a specifically named branch (`gh-pages`).

Github were also pretty lax about adding HTTPS support to custom domains their Pages service.

In comparison, GL pages allows:

- using any SSG[0]

- writing your own custom SSG (even integrated/including in your repo itself)

- automatic LetsEncrypt renewal for custom domains

- out-of-repo secrets management for any tasks within your SSG build/deploy steps

[0] https://about.gitlab.com/2016/06/17/ssg-overview-gitlab-page...

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Question to current Gitlab users: Why do you use Gitlab instead of Github? What are the killer features that make it worth switching to?

Reasons for initially switching to Gitlab: - Pricing structure made much more sense than Github's at the time. I would've been willing to pay for Github, but their pricing for private repos (now unlimited on the free plan) scaled steeply for any reasonable number. - In addition to private repos, their free plan still offers many features that Github's free plan lacks, and their paid plans have many more features agai…

I was going to comment, but this sums up my thoughts as well. Agreed on pretty much every front, including the stability/performance concerns.

I will add that, while this is subjective, I also think that Gitlab has a nicer interface and is better organized. On top of everything parent mentions, there's a lot of subtle stuff like this that makes me stay.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Because Microsoft paid for GitHub -- since GitLab is well positioned to compete with GitHub, cash rich companies like Apple or Google could be interested purely to keep up the Jones's.

Thanks. Do you have any insight into MSFT's strategy for GitHub? I assume it helps make it seem developer friendly, data-mining, identifying projects/new ideas of value and validation, and is part of their becoming more of a cloud company strategy.

> Do you have any insight into MSFT's strategy for GitHub?

Developers, developers, developers.

They are deeply integrating GitHub into Azure and Tfs, and integrating that with Visual Studio, creating a top-notch devops platform for you to develop for Windows or Azure.

And now with their move into Linux, they are creating an image just like the old Borland.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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We use GitLab because you can self-host it. GitHub is not an option for us, because we must maintain control of our data and source code. So GitHub was never really an option. But we'd likely be using GitLab even if we didn't have this limitation. There's a bunch of features that make GitLab better for our specific team / situation. From my personal experience, GitLab CI is better than CI options available on GitHub.…

https://enterprise.github.com/faq

I believe self-hosting is a pretty new option. Gitlab always had it afaik.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects? I have no horse in the race (indeed, I'd love for there to be more variety in this space) but one of my jobs is to link to open source repos and I've just checked.. and the last one I linked to was in December 2018. In the niches I cover, almost no-one seems to actually using GitLab for their open source repos. Lest you think it's just…

Corporate usage. GitHub is the standard so pretty much everyone has a GitHub account, companies ask for GitHub accounts on applications, it's the hub currently. GitLab is the superior product in all regards, but GitHub has the network.

When I was applying for jobs recently, a few of them had explicit GitHub link fields, sometimes even regex validated to ensure ONLY GitHub links got posted.

I didn't finish filling out those applications.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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We’ve been using Gitlab for 4 years now. What got us initially was the free private repos before github had that. We are now a paying customer. Their integrated CICD is amazing. It works perfectly for all our needs and integrates really easily with AWS and GCP. Also their customer service is really damn good. If I ever have an issue, it’s dealt with so fast and with so much detail. Honestly one of the best customer s…

> Their integrated CICD is amazing. My company switched to BitBucket in order to pinch pennies, and now I weep when I have to get Jenkins and BitBucket to play nice with each other or to do something. GitLab CI just works , is easily horizontally scalable without paying exorbitant prices for more "agents", etc... I miss GitLab...

Jenkinsfile + BitBucket works just nicely here.

Getting that to work with GitHub is more painful (pain mostly related to automated webhook-management)

I can't compare to GitLab right now ;-)

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects? I have no horse in the race (indeed, I'd love for there to be more variety in this space) but one of my jobs is to link to open source repos and I've just checked.. and the last one I linked to was in December 2018. In the niches I cover, almost no-one seems to actually using GitLab for their open source repos. Lest you think it's just…

Corporate usage. GitHub is the standard so pretty much everyone has a GitHub account, companies ask for GitHub accounts on applications, it's the hub currently. GitLab is the superior product in all regards, but GitHub has the network.

>GitLab is the superior product in all regards, but GitHub has the network.

I could agree on features, but not UX. Github is still the king.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Congrats, GitLab team. Way to build an impressive business. When anybody tells you there are rules to venture capital — like it’s impossible to take on massive incumbents that have network effects — ignore them. The GitLab team is doing something phenomenal here. Enjoy your success! You’ve earned it.

Thank you! GitHub is unchallenged in open source but it turns out you can change all the people in one company to a new tool without much of a problem, especially if you can replace 10 other tools.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Not a dig at you because I understand that you're using Apple simply as an example of a big company, but Apple hypothetically buying GitLab sounds soo ridiculous.

If Apple cares about their dev. ecosystem buying Gitlab would be pretty solid investment.

Apple would destroy the open-development Gitlab culture instantly, building a walled garden and alienating Gitlab users' ?

I hope that scenario does not unfold, for anyone involved.

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