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Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

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Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#91

"Can this fight ever be won?" No, the point is to make the people subverting this for their own nefarious gains (looking at you, NYT) put so much effort, money, and time into it, that eventually they die a slow horrible death and, maybe, just maybe, something better and more relevant and less evil comes along (or maybe NYT changes their ways - either works). I mean, look at this thread, so may great undermining metho…

After all the newspapers die a slow horrible death, I think the world will figure something better out.

But it might take a few decades of uninformed confusion.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#92
post #26

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That used to be the case. But Google has long ago given certain sites a pass on that.

Did they? This fight against Incognito mode suggests otherwise

Ever try to click on a LinkedIn profile from a search result? Most of them just show a LinkedIn login screen, and none of the text from the search result's snippet.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#93
post #15

Can this fight ever be won? If you've been browsing the internet for more than 5 minutes you already have cookies from some of the major ad networks. Therefore if you do not have cookies from the major ad networks, you're either a brand-new device or an incognito browser. All that is left to do is get in bed with the ad network to ask them if they have good cookies for this session. As it so happens most of the compa…

Sites don't want to bust the experience for brand new devices I think. That would include things like internet cafes where you log into a clean desktop environment, or browsers you use rarely like maybe one in your car. I think if Google can just get a real disk-backed implementation working for Incognito mode, such that there actually is no difference between Incognito and a new regular browser, this feature will be…

If they want to block incognito mode, wouldn't they also want to block someone from an Internet cafe? If the reason you block incognito mode is because you can't track the user, you don't want a user coming from an Internet cafe that you can't track.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#94
They can track Mirimir all they like. Not that it'll do them much good. Because Mirimir only does stuff that I'm OK with everyone knowing about Mirimir. And none of it is connected to my meatspace identity, or to other personas.

Unless you're really paranoid, all you need is a VM, which hits the Internet through a VPN service. You use the host machine for meatspace stuff, and the VM for private stuff.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#95

Client tracking throw Browser Fingerprinting is a spooky tech. Check these two websites to see for yourself. Try using different browsers, even aVPN connection, and see how trackable you are: 1) https://panopticlick.eff.org 2) https://amiunique.org

The amiunique.org one was very enlightening - along with my user agent, my content language header was giving away a huge amount of information around me. Long ago I selected German (second language) as a secondary language, and that combination is the rarest thing I have going for me.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#97
post #34

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They do both or at least google does.

Even if they do both, if the bots always follow what is entered in robots.txt and humans do not, it won’t be long before that’s the primary factor.

And that's totally fine - if they add their articles (for example) into their robots.txt, it would cripple their SEO. It wouldn't happen.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#98
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do both or at least google does.

Even if they do both, if the bots always follow what is entered in robots.txt and humans do not, it won’t be long before that’s the primary factor.

The Google bot mostly ignores the paths specified in robots.txt

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#99
post #15

Can this fight ever be won? If you've been browsing the internet for more than 5 minutes you already have cookies from some of the major ad networks. Therefore if you do not have cookies from the major ad networks, you're either a brand-new device or an incognito browser. All that is left to do is get in bed with the ad network to ask them if they have good cookies for this session. As it so happens most of the compa…

In the same way that ublock is a must-have extension for many people, I won't browse without cookieAutoDelete [0]. Mostly I don't bother authenticating with websites anymore, and (I think about 3 maybe? And I just reauthenticate when I want to use those) and for mobile browsing I mostly use Firefox Focus [1]. The ad networks are down to browser fingerprinting now, which will be devastatingly accurate but realisticall…

Random user agent to throw off the fingerprinting. Decentraleyes to defeat CDN tracking.

Re: Google Chrome Incognito Mode Can Still Be Detected

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another workaround: Disable javascript on the newspapers' sites. They load the full article and then use JS to hide it. (They also use JS to do the incognito detection in the first place.)

Often doesn't work, they now take a new approach by only loading in the extra content if you pass their checks (using JS). Not using JS will get you the first paragraph.

Downside of search engine indexers evolving over the years to execute JS on crawled pages.
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