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Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by filoleg » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:24 PM UTC

cosmodisk wrote: post #41

lrem wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hehe. I've been going around telling how my wife is nine months pregnant, asking how the paternity benefits are.

Any success getting a job after mentioning it?

Not OP, but i dont think they would have an issue getting hired at any good tech company worth working for because of that.

As an anecdote, last year we hired a woman who outright told us she would like to start working next month, but then would immediately need to take 4-6 months off for a paid parental leave, as she was due somewhat soon (i forgot whether we provide 4 or 6 months; i think it is 6, but i dont remember 100%).

She was a good candidate, so of course we hired her, she worked for about a month, and then went away for the parental leave. Then she got back to work after her leave, and everything went on as normal.

We also had candidates before who went on parental leave on their first day of work, so they essentially had paid months off before they even started working.

For the record, it wasn’t some obscure small family-run business, it was at one of the big N companies.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by throwaway07Ju19 » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:29 PM UTC

godelmachine wrote: post #66

He spelled “involved” wrong :D :P PS - (Please don’t downvote me _/\_)

Perhaps he had to manually type dozens of these. Anyone know how hard was it to access a photocopier in 1974 ?

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by mikorym » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:31 PM UTC

cosmodisk wrote: post #39

Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

> $75k... not much has changed

I don't understand this nuance. Is it standard to be paid $75k? Sounds like a lot to me.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by walshemj » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:35 PM UTC

sndean wrote: post #38

codysan wrote: post #25

Making $15k at 18 in the 70s, not too shabby Willy G

Yeah, it looks like $15k in 1974 is ~$80k today

I believe Bill had his own company writing code - I think it might have even been started in high school.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by adventured » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:38 PM UTC

mikorym wrote: post #93

cosmodisk wrote: post #39

Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

> $75k... not much has changed I don't understand this nuance. Is it standard to be paid $75k? Sounds like a lot to me.

$75,000 is a bottom ~15-20% software developer salary in the US today per the BLS figures.

Someone in his ability range today will earn twice that (Gates was clearly at least a top 25% programmer in his day, more likely solidly top 10%), or more depending on location. That's before factoring in the age & experience issues, which can throw that all over the place and would be hard to adjust for today vs 45 years ago.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by walshemj » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:40 PM UTC

throwaway07Ju19 wrote: post #92

godelmachine wrote: post #66

He spelled “involved” wrong :D :P PS - (Please don’t downvote me _/\_)

Perhaps he had to manually type dozens of these. Anyone know how hard was it to access a photocopier in 1974 ?

Probably a mimeo or gestetner machine - very common for duplicating in the 70's.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by lrem » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:41 PM UTC

cosmodisk wrote: post #41

lrem wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hehe. I've been going around telling how my wife is nine months pregnant, asking how the paternity benefits are.

Any success getting a job after mentioning it?

Got an offer from every single one of them. Chose the one least surprised by this (Google).

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by par » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:41 PM UTC

cronix wrote: post #82

donatj wrote: post #47

Height, weight, current salary? Were these things you commonly kept on your resume in the 1970s? I honestly can’t imagine listing any of that today.

Now it's personal pronouns and gender. Seeing more and more on resumes. I didn't ask if you were "genderqueer", don't care and it has nothing to do with our open front end dev position.

wow you sound pretty aggressive about something that is quite innocuous.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by cosmodisk » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:42 PM UTC

godelmachine wrote: post #64

cosmodisk wrote: post #39

Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

At the age of 18!

And why not? A friend of mine called the local IT company enquiring about the position. He told them that he's got experience with x,y,z technologies and can do a,b,c.The guy from the company was so excited( it's a small town with a very limited pool of candidates) that he wanted to get him in for an interview. Before confirming the date, he asked my friend: what's your education? To which,my friend replied: I'll start 11th grade next year..The guy hung up...

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Post by beisner » Sun, Aug 04, 2019, 5:43 PM UTC

yholio wrote: post #90

i80and wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listing their pronouns prevents candidates from being misgendered while hiring staff discuss them. Makes sense to me.

Imagine trying to create a pronouns dopdown into some employer form. You either fix the list, and inevitably be accused of lack of gender sensitivity when a new pronoun starts to be used; or leave it free form, and run the risk of some candidates entering "their magnificence, Klingon commander" as their preferred pronoun.

I don’t see a problem with that