Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not what happened, though. Google management was quite happy to completely ignore Damore. He was punished only once his screed became public and embarrassed the company. That's exactly the opposite of retaliation!
The "screed" [sic] became public through no fault of Damore's . Why focus on him then, if not as (late) retaliation?
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#92I wish there was more negative backlash when Google retaliated against James Damore The privilege to speak up against the status quo is important. Especially when you have less power, and even if your opinion is unsavory to some
This guy literally said the hiring bar was lowered for women. It says that in his doc. And it's false. After everyone was upset about this, he never apologized or walked back that part of the doc at all.
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#93The implicit unionization benefits of being too smart to readily fire. Interesting.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry I left for a few minutes. I don’t agree with Kay Cole James on any issue socially. My read on the situation though is that, by not recommending a viable alternative. I read that as Googlers saying they are not open to have conservative viewpoints on the council, hence them disbanding. That forcible suppression of an opposition viewpoint instead of coming to the table together to debate differences when crafting…
That forcible suppression of an opposition viewpoint instead of coming to the table together to debate differences when crafting policy, I see as having elements of Fascism. It's certainly authoritarian.
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#95It's almost as if... bear with me here... Some sort of collective action by employees of a monopolistic company can't be ignored... because - uh - they'll stop working en masse? Voluntarily in lieu of pay? Madness, it'll never catch on.
2014 Demoulas Market Basket Protests [1]. 15,000 un-unionized employees in New England walked off their family-owned supermarket jobs after a board-flip and resulting capitulation of existing (family owned) leadership. Customers joined forces with the employees en-masse. The company is an icon and in many ways a prime mover in the area due to their intense real-estate investment strategy. This multi-billion dollar bu…
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#96I've enough friends working at Google to know that they have a pretty strong mandated daily dose of kool-aid, where you are elite and only valuable if you work at google and adopt the one true Googler world view. Certain factions at Google demanded and ensured that anyone not in conformance at Google no longer work there. Then they are shocked and surprised when the same executives use the same mechanisms to hurt the…
I managed to interact with lots of people who work for Google daily. The culture "The Circle" illustrated is spot on but I guess making 4x or 5x federal median wage would do it.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meredith Whittaker and company could not find peace in their hearts with the appointment of (the president of the long standing, prominent conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation) Kay Cole James. So they made a big problem about it, and here we are. Tolerance, for my views but not yours.
Toleration of intolerance is self-defeating, but you probably knew that.
That rather suggests that it is Meredith Whittaker's intolerance that we should not be tolerating, no?
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#98I don’t understand how a company where 5% of the workforce is responsible for the product that drives 95% of the revenue is so seemingly vulnerable to employee pressure. I can’t imagine Bell Lab employees had all that much leverage against Ma Bell.
I’ve often wondered this myself. Google has literally thousands of engineers working on search alone. I can’t even fathom what they’re all doing. And then what is everyone filling their time with?
I might be wrong, but there is a reason AWS is far ahead of GCP. And I feel gap is increasing
Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation
#99I wish there was more negative backlash when Google retaliated against James Damore The privilege to speak up against the status quo is important. Especially when you have less power, and even if your opinion is unsavory to some
This guy literally said the hiring bar was lowered for women. It says that in his doc. And it's false. After everyone was upset about this, he never apologized or walked back that part of the doc at all.
Is it possible that Damore witnessed specific instance(s) of an explicit bar-lowering (or a trend for one team/manager) but no general policy at Google?
I am asking out of curiosity, I don't want to skewer or stick up for Damore.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not what happened, though. Google management was quite happy to completely ignore Damore. He was punished only once his screed became public and embarrassed the company. That's exactly the opposite of retaliation!
The "screed" [sic] became public through no fault of Damore's . Why focus on him then, if not as (late) retaliation?