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Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation

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Ah, okay. Nurses then. Though they haven't chosen to do much en masse yet.

Nurses are unionized and politically active: https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2019/04/... https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/apr/02/washington-nur... Pretty much the only high-paying job that isn't unionized are doctors, but they use the American Medical Association to limit supply.

It's around 20% of nurses.

Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation

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"Fascism" is used today to refer to "bad thing I don't like". It's a mistake to interpret diction literally. Yes, it would be lovely if people used the word "fascism" to refer to right-wing, ultra-nationalist, authoritarian political movements. But that's not how people use words and the ship has long since sailed on that particular word. According to George Orwell "fascism" has a been a synonym for "bully" since 194…

Ok, I guess I am out of the loop on the meaning of fascism. However, even if I substitute the word "bullying" the statement doesn't make sense to me: "Google employees protesting the makeup of the AI Ethics council appeared like the closest thing to bullying in the USA that I have ever witnessed" I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm splitting hairs, but I genuinely don't understand what the OP is trying to stay in that st…

The OP is trying to say:

"Google employees protesting the makeup of the AI Ethics council is disgraceful"

Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation

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Can you elaborate on this?

Here's a WaPo article from the controversial woman Google appointed to the board, Kay Cole James. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-wanted-to-help-goo... I may not agree with her politically, but its important to have different viewpoints in discourse as long as they're rooted in principles. I think its shameful that the AI Ethics Council was disbanded, if employees took issue with her it would have been nice…

Having bigoted values and using them for social control is a familiar scene in America for its entire history. The natural progression of pro-business is to use regulatory capture to create an artificial monopoly—competition brings down profits. All we really need to add to this is a one party system to form a true fascist state: something republicans could conceivably achieve given their control of the senate.

The democratic party, on the other hand, is showing a clear schism between pro-corporate and an pro-labor wings. It is trivial to imagine a split into two parties. The republicans have no future without the social control our president demonstrated in his run and term.

If anything, putting a bigoted republican on the AI ethics committee is leaning into a future where Alphabet would benefit from a fascist state.

Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation

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I don’t understand how a company where 5% of the workforce is responsible for the product that drives 95% of the revenue is so seemingly vulnerable to employee pressure. I can’t imagine Bell Lab employees had all that much leverage against Ma Bell.

I’ve often wondered this myself. Google has literally thousands of engineers working on search alone. I can’t even fathom what they’re all doing. And then what is everyone filling their time with?

Rewriting code.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13619378

> Most software at Google gets rewritten every few years.

Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation

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Someone posted preliminary sit-in attendance numbers. Attendance ranges from 50-150 per office in the larger offices. Anecdotally, I've seen very little discussion and energy this time compared to the walkout. Back then, one couldn't walk 20 feet without hitting some kind of exhortation to join the walkout. This time, more people might find out about this sit-in through this HN story than through internal channels. T…

either way you've been swindled.

Re: Google employees are staging a sit-in to protest reported retaliation

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I wish there was more negative backlash when Google retaliated against James Damore The privilege to speak up against the status quo is important. Especially when you have less power, and even if your opinion is unsavory to some

Even the NLRB (pretty much the most employee-friendly place you can find, if you look through rulings) found they didn't.
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