rule #1. Thou shall not buy/sell user information.
the internet is entierly about transferring information, which ultimately comes from humans
Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas
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#92Hahaha. I want to just blissfully assume this story was accidentally made live two days early. April Fools! The Internet is doing just fine. It's these paperclip/engagement maximizing websites and crack-apps that are a problem. And the founder of one of the largest ones of these, after having built surveillance profiles on everybody, right as he's tightening the noose of censorship, is telling us that ambient "new ru…
yeah i found the equalization of the internet with social media weird too
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#93This crappy website doesn't let me use my adblocker.
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#94I prefer the rules laid out by people i voted for, at least I can vote them out if they screw up.
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#95"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...
I agree with Mark as far as social networks are concerned. The 'social' part of the name is important, and social relationships cannot function without some sort of stake. Having a unified identity guarantees that people are held accountable for what they say, it reduces fraud, trolling, and it means people have 'skin in the game' when participating in a social environment, it's the basis for trust.
"Results show that in the context of online firestorms, non-anonymous individuals are more aggressive compared to anonymous individuals"
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas
#96The four points being: * harmful content * election integrity * privacy * data portability I think Zuckerberg's intent is to dilute the real issue (privacy) with these other three points. FB has a bad record when it comes to privacy and they are actively taking measures against it. For example, they lobby against privacy laws [1]. They create shadow profiles and they make it difficult or impossible to delete your acc…
> Election integrity is a media hysteria. Nobody is forcing anyone to vote in a particular way. I think transparency is a real issue - knowing who is funding those adverts and campaigns and putting controls on campaign spending is important. Sure, no-one is forcing you to vote a particular way. But if they can control what you see, here and know about an issue, they don't need to force you - do they?
> knowing who is funding those adverts and campaigns and putting controls on campaign spending is important.
If I understand you correctly, you are advocating for anti-privacy by _forcing_ advertisers into "transparency"?
> putting controls on campaign spending is important
That sounds dangerous. How would you feel if we put some campaign spending controls on campaigns you _agree_ with and promote?
Controlling campaign spending is a ridiculous notion anyways because there is (fortunately) no global law. Even if there was, you can bet there would be a black market.
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#97The guy who broke every single rule in his ruthless conquest of the internet is now asking for new rules. You have to admire the sheer audacity of this play. It does make sense though. He can finally see the tide of public opinion turning against him. Facebook's business metrics will be fine for a while but the pace at which they are losing people's trust is increasing. He needed to make a grand statement now while t…
I think Zuckerberg is just helping the internet to learn and evolve. Without his evil products, we wouldn't understand the psychological harm of the internet. These will clear up in the next 5-10 years.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having a unified identity guarantees that people are held accountable for what they say, it reduces fraud, trolling, and it means people have 'skin in the game' when participating in a social environment, it's the basis for trust. Awesome. So you're going to change your HN username to your real name and put your address and phone number in your "about" section?
No, because I don't treat this website as a social network. I have no friend connections here, don't expose private information, it's a technical discussion board in my opinion. Facebook on the other hand is a network for the exchange of private or personal information, including for example people forming groups about particularly sensitive topics (abuse experiences, disease and so on), in which personal identity is…
> Facebook on the other hand is a network for the exchange of private or personal information
No, it's not for me.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think HN in particular is too focused on "loss of privacy" as an issue. It seems to me that loss of privacy, while concerning, hasn't caused a fraction of the tangible, measurable problems in the west that misinformation and echo chambers have caused. Loss of privacy hasn't caused anti-immigrant fear-mongering, or conspiracy theorists harassing school shooting victims, or people not vaccinating their children. In a…
I agree. I am not sure that any substantial "loss of privacy" has even occurred. Just to posit an example, Banks and Credit Bureaus have long tracked extensive information about us including where we have lived, worked, and what we have purchased. Should we be able to have our credit history erased from Credit Bureau and Banks in the name of privacy?
Yes because the process of credit evaluation is non-transparent and punishes people who choose not to take on debt and indirectly punishes people who dared not to be born in the top 2% and couldn't rebound from a personal emergency in a timely enough manner for a stratified class of creditors.
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#100Smart. "The ball is on your court, governments. Never again will you be able to blame facebook with impunity." FB doesnt stand to lose anything from regulation.
Exactly. Facebook strategy is always let's generalize the problem so that our competitors are also affected, this way we can dilute the discussion, change the narrative (and also end up doing nothing concrete).