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Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by celticninja »

codeddesign wrote: post #64
jlg23 wrote: post #57

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Which major religion forbids yeast intake (and how would you guarantee that) and from which angle does one shine light on a people united in faith but with distinct local food (and yeast) sources to make it "interesting"?

Look at the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Their belief isn’t necessarily yeast but dietary standards in general. Promotion of a vegetarian/vegan diet, and removal of alcohol, coffee, and sugar since the late 1800’s. As far as I know the dietary standards include the promotion of the effects of gut bateria, and the ill effects of eating things like warm bread but not necessarily removal of yeast.

I don't think that seventh day Adventist church is necessarily an example of being we'll adjusted

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by dcx »

objektif wrote: post #41

A bit off topic but what is the HN consensus on probiotics? Any brands you can recommend?

I asked this question to a gastroenterologist recently and he suggested that people should treat them like medical drugs - don't take them at all if you don't have digestive issues, and if you do have issues, take them with medical guidance to help find one that works for you.

I have mild IBS and had done some exploration prior to asking this question. In my personal experience, the above is definitely true. The wrong probiotic can worsen symptoms or make you feel sick/feverish. But I eventually found one that works for me, I take it daily and it definitely reduces symptoms and makes my gut feel more solid. (I even have data proving this; I ran two three-month data collection periods to test various interventions, quantified symptoms, ran regressions, etc)

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by acover »

theprotocol wrote: post #11
amelius wrote: post #7

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How did you find out?

I figured out that my problems were related to intestinal microflora because they became ten times worse after undergoing 3 courses of H. Pylori eradication therapy in the span of only a few months, and I never improved for years afterwards. That's the short version; in reality, I suffered for a decade and a half before I caught on that I could do something about it, and it took about 5 years after that to get any ki…

Do you think a survey of people with similar problems would have helped narrow down effective treatments?

What about instead of sampling randomly selecting individuals to try a treatment?

I'm often overwhelmed by the amount of information about options out there.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by code_duck »

theprotocol wrote: post #56
code_duck wrote: post #43

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A lot of your symptoms sound similar to some things that I have been through. I found out that I have celiac disease, after suffering through a lot of physical symptoms which were sometimes paired with mental symptoms such as confusion or mood swings, which are common with celiac. The exact cost seems to be a mixture of things… release of neurotransmitters and immune system chemicals, disrupted gut flora, chronic pai…

I don't have any statistics, but judging from the number of sites and blogs that have popped up that deal with similar conditions, this seems to be an increasingly common problem. It seems like you could now speak about brain fog and everyone would understand what you meant, and I don't think that was the case 15 years ago. I've only ever made 2 top-level comments related to this issue on HN and they have surprised m…

I think the conversation about that came up with chronic fatigue. These days it’s used to describe mild hangover-like states, mostly. What people with celiac suffer is more like the confusion that comes with multiple sclerosis. As far as other people’s ‘brain fog’ I think they’re referring to a much more mild condition.

Self described sensitivity to gluten is on the rise. Possibly some gluten intolerance is on the rise, too. However, incidence of -actual- celiac disease as confirmed by biopsy has not changed, but screening and diagnosis have gotten a lot better.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by objektif »

dcx wrote: post #92
objektif wrote: post #41

A bit off topic but what is the HN consensus on probiotics? Any brands you can recommend?

I asked this question to a gastroenterologist recently and he suggested that people should treat them like medical drugs - don't take them at all if you don't have digestive issues, and if you do have issues, take them with medical guidance to help find one that works for you. I have mild IBS and had done some exploration prior to asking this question. In my personal experience, the above is definitely true. The wron…

My experience so far has been exactly how you describe I feel like I have mild cold when I take it. I have tried three or four brands. Do you mind sharong what you have tried and which one is successful?

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by starchild_3001 »

theprotocol wrote: post #11
amelius wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you find out?

I figured out that my problems were related to intestinal microflora because they became ten times worse after undergoing 3 courses of H. Pylori eradication therapy in the span of only a few months, and I never improved for years afterwards. That's the short version; in reality, I suffered for a decade and a half before I caught on that I could do something about it, and it took about 5 years after that to get any ki…

There's a whole group of people who're benefit from eliminating histamins, FODMAPs etc---and even any form of fiber, which probably you already know. Check out carnivores (again if you don't know yet): https://zerocarbzen.com/about-me/... there're facebook groups with many 10ks of members. Another is Dr Ray Peat adherents. They essentially cut out everything but orange juice and milk and meat... :) Curious sort of people. Might give you some ideas.

What works for my "aging" problems (age 40)? Carnivore diet helps to some degree (with weight, testosterone, energy etc). LLLT on the head works really well for me to boost mental acuity, or any form of stimulating light (10k lux lightlamp). It's has been life changing for the past 1.5 years (LLLT device costs $30). https://www.selfhacked.com/blog/my-review-of-lllt/

Best of luck!

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by nafey »

frakr wrote: post #86
gboudrias wrote: post #44

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Interestingly, almost no one in NA justice systems talks about evil. The causality between life events leading to crime is often ridiculously clear, and choice barely factors into it. Believing in evil is its own kind of privilege. I for one have now seen a lot of criminal cases, and I've only seen sick people and people following the path laid before them. No evil in sight, but the concept's very existence allows fo…

They still choose to continue down that path, or to not seek healing. Maybe it would be difficult to make another choice, but impossible? I find that pretty hard to believe.

The will power required to exercise such a choice might also be inequitably distributed.

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Post by dageshi »

theprotocol wrote: post #40
hugelgupf wrote: post #31

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Brain fog, intestinal inflammation. Sounds so very familiar. Do you have research notes, on methodology and things tried? I'm now very curious for myself.

I don't have notes per se, and I am afraid to say something that can be considered advice. I can answer any question you might have though (assuming it's appropriate for me to do so here, I hope I don't annoy HN users).

I don't think anyone is going to find your comments in this thread annoying, quite the opposite.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by Bayart »

justinator wrote: post #90
jlg23 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which major religion forbids yeast intake (and how would you guarantee that) and from which angle does one shine light on a people united in faith but with distinct local food (and yeast) sources to make it "interesting"?

The Catholic Church uses unleavened bread for the Host. It's symbolic, but somewhat of an interest in this thread.

In that specific case it's related to Judean tradition. Jews also eat that sort of bread for Passover.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by atomical »

starchild_3001 wrote: post #96
theprotocol wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I figured out that my problems were related to intestinal microflora because they became ten times worse after undergoing 3 courses of H. Pylori eradication therapy in the span of only a few months, and I never improved for years afterwards. That's the short version; in reality, I suffered for a decade and a half before I caught on that I could do something about it, and it took about 5 years after that to get any ki…

There's a whole group of people who're benefit from eliminating histamins, FODMAPs etc---and even any form of fiber, which probably you already know. Check out carnivores (again if you don't know yet): https://zerocarbzen.com/about-me/.. . there're facebook groups with many 10ks of members. Another is Dr Ray Peat adherents. They essentially cut out everything but orange juice and milk and meat... :) Curious sort of p…

It's a great option for people obsessed with pseudoscience I suppose.
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