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What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by [deleted] »

tokyodude wrote: post #39
catacombs wrote: post #10

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Not nonsense. Google isn't a search company. It's an advertising company.

I don't think that's really fair. By that argument, every magazine, radio, and TV show are ad companies. That includes NPR which runs ads for sponsors and ads for pledges. NYTimes, The Guardian, etc... Do all those companies make money from ads? Sure. Does that make them ad companies? No, they are first and foremost companies that provide a service for the user. If that service is good enough (gets enough viewers) th…

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Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

utopcell wrote: post #81
fucking_tragedy wrote: post #58

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Wow, this is definitely worth mentioning. Explains why the OP was incredibly biased towards Google while putting down one of their competitors.

Biased towards Google ? I stated my opinion: I _trust_ Google. I do _not_ trust a company that chooses to increase their revenue by numerous smearing campaigns. As for putting down a 'competitor' [sic]: Google owns 'duck.com' via its On2 acquisition. What do they show if you visit the page ? "If you meant to visit the search engine DuckDuckGo, click here." "The OP" works at Google precisely because they think Google…

This is what you said, and it's clearly biased because you work for Google. That is the definition of bias.

> Would you trust Google, a company that has delivered real value, has helped democratize access to knowledge at a global scale and has everything to lose if it was revealed that they are misusing sensitive information

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by Mononokay »

utopcell wrote: post #54
mauricioc wrote: post #51

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Are you utopcell@google.com as in [1]? If so, I would say that's worth mentioning. [1] https://research.yahoo.com/mobstor/publication_attachments/w...

Indeed I am. I'm sure your first thought was to use Google to find this information.

You shill on HN for basically every Google-related thread, so it's not like they'd need to use Google to find out you had connections to them.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17094934

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18267828

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18179176

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by 43920 »

JCSato wrote: post #80
blackhaz wrote: post #70

I'll probably be downvoted to hell, but I have to say this. I'm Ukrainian, so I have bias against anything related to Russian government, especially services pretending to be improving my privacy. So, my question is, what is DuckDuckGo's relationship to Yandex, a company fully controlled by Russian government and having track record sharing personal information with Russian security services?

Are. . .you aware of some relationship between the two? I don't think I've ever heard of them being linked.

DuckDuckGo has a deal with Yandex to display search results from them on some searches. If you search for something in Russian, you'll see a "in partnership with Yandex" message in the corner of the search results page.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by utopcell »

Mononokay wrote: post #93
utopcell wrote: post #54

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Indeed I am. I'm sure your first thought was to use Google to find this information.

You shill on HN for basically every Google-related thread, so it's not like they'd need to use Google to find out you had connections to them. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17094934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18267828 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18179176

Solid argument. Everyone that has a positive opinion about Google works for them. You might want to search for the threads of my not positive opinions as well though.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by icotyl »

andy_ppp wrote: post #8
stephengillie wrote: post #2

> In fact, search advertisers buy search ads by bidding on keywords, not people. It makes intuitive sense, too. If you search for ‘car’, you are more likely to respond to a car ad than something you searched for last week. This keyword-based advertising is our primary business model. The rest of the post is a rant about user tracking.

Rant seems extremely strong - how about we go with well thought through set of opinions that the CEO of Duck Duck Go is rigorously applying to his product. I personally found his argument so persuasive I intend to set everything to DuckDuckGo again now.

I made the switch on all my devices about 6 weeks ago. I lasted 5 weeks. At least for quickly finding relevant programming documentation, I didn't think the results were on par with Google.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by the_duke »

Nebbers wrote: post #60
thelittleone wrote: post #21

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I made the switch to DDG about 12 months ago for all devices. It has been an entirely positive experience.

Went to try it for a week to see if it was viable. Haven't looked back and have never needed to go to Google's search engine for a year now. Best feature is by far the Stack Overflow 'instant answers'!

I have it as my primary search engine now too, but I find myself constantly using !g because the results suck.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by fileeditview »

Mononokay wrote: post #89
fileeditview wrote: post #77

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While I use DDG as my default search engine I also never got the name.. I think the logo is fine but the name is beyond me.

...what? Did you never play duck-duck-go(/ose) as a child?

Funny. In Germany this game has a very different name (something like 'The fox goes round'). It didn't even occur to me that it could be that.

edit: And I still do not understand the relation to a search engine :)

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by gmueckl »

icotyl wrote: post #96
andy_ppp wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rant seems extremely strong - how about we go with well thought through set of opinions that the CEO of Duck Duck Go is rigorously applying to his product. I personally found his argument so persuasive I intend to set everything to DuckDuckGo again now.

I made the switch on all my devices about 6 weeks ago. I lasted 5 weeks. At least for quickly finding relevant programming documentation, I didn't think the results were on par with Google.

If you still want to support DuckDuckGo, you might want to use a browser that lets you prefix search quesies with a one or two letter combo for the search engine to use. Chrome and Vivaldi have this feature and I think Firefox does as well, although I exclusively use its search bar instead, so I am not completely sure.

Re: What is the revenue generation model for DuckDuckGo?

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Post by gmueckl »

mojuba wrote: post #68

I like DDG, but claiming that their ads are based only on keywords is just not true. They are at least also based on location. I just tried "dishwasher" and it brings up ads in French from local stores. But this is natural, because without the location most ads would probably be meaningless. The question is then, how far can you go by using the information available only in the user's HTTP request? Can you use the us…

When you use it for ads, but don't store it, how do you prove to your advertisers that you are keeping their contracts and showing the ads to the right target group?
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