Canada legalises recreational cannabis use • Hacker News Board

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by refurb » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:06 AM UTC

jeffdavis wrote: post #77

rtkwe wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck convincing the Supreme Court to upend the basis of a huge portion of federal law and decades of judicial precedence in favor of very broad readings of the enumerated powers.

How is that a broad reading? Under what reasonable interpretation of the Constitution does the federal government have the power to tell you not to grow plants on your own property for your own consumption?

The same law that’s been used to prosecute other crimes, the federal govt jurisdiction over interstate commerce.

That decision goes back to federal govt controls over wheat prices. Some guy said “i’ll grow what I want, I don’t care about the price controls” and the courts agreed with the twisted logic that it impact interstate commerce, thus they have the power to control it.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by emilr » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:08 AM UTC

cageface wrote: post #83

Tiktaalik wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

States starting to legalize it was likely a big part of why the Canadian government became comfortable with the idea of legalizing it. The idea of legalization, or at least decriminalization, has been floating around in Canada since the 90s, but a major talking point against the idea has been that it would compromise Canada's relationship with the USA. Obviously as internal parts of the USA are legalizing it this is…

I wonder if this has anything to do with the recent breakdown in US-Canada relations? Maybe the Canadians are less concerned with offending us now?

This is the result of a campaign promise made in 2015.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by refurb » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:09 AM UTC

pesfandiar wrote: post #24

dstjean wrote: post #9

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The royal assent happens via the Governor General, who's a pro-science astronaut [0]. She'd be most certainly in favour of the bill if her personal opinion mattered at all. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Payette

Pretty sure the Governor General doesn’t let her personal opinion change the will of Parliment.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by megaman22 » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:11 AM UTC

Having enjoyed a few edibles in Amsterdam, weed products are fantastic. The sense of non-anxiety is infectious. I would pay handsomely for that few fucks to give.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by dang » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:12 AM UTC

djhaskin987 wrote: post #37

A sad and unfortunate trend.

Possibly, but please don't post unsubstantive comments here. Especially not on divisive topics, where it's tantamount to trolling.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by improv32 » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:12 AM UTC

djhaskin987 wrote: post #37

A sad and unfortunate trend.

Would also like to hear you POV. It's not often expressed here

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by developer2 » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:14 AM UTC

bjourne wrote: post #48

Should any substance which enhances the risk of schizophrenia be legalized? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317170.php It appears to me that if cannabis was a food additive with the same risk profile, no one would think it should be legal. I understand that the counter-argument is "What about tobacco/alcohol?" But those substances are already legal and there are no "equal opportunities" rights for drugs. Li…

1. From your link: "only the genetically susceptible mice developed schizophrenia-related changes after being exposed to cannabis".

2. As each argument against legalization fails to make a dent in public opinion, yet another takes its place. At some point, it is no longer about weighing the risks to come to a decision. Instead, critics have already decided that "marijuana is bad", and are looking to point to _anything_ that supports their agenda.

That said... good job, Canada - we've done it!

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by okonomiyaki3000 » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:22 AM UTC

What is the correlation between countries with partially privatized penal systems and strong drug laws? Yes, I realize that drugs have been illegal longer than prisons have been privately run in most cases but prison privatization is a factor in keeping them illegal, is it not?

As far as I can tell, Canada has not privatized their penal system.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by gardnr » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:23 AM UTC

drb91 wrote: post #12

nomocrypto wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once we figure out how to keep minorities in prison easily, marijuana will become completely legal in the US.

I agree FWIW, but I suspect capitalists would be fine discriminating blindly against all colors of a lower class. Race has always been an effective means to this end in America: if the people feeding your wallet are at each other’s throat, they might not notice who’s pocketing the cash.

I wonder if this got downvoted for the racial sentiment or anti-capitalist view.

Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use

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Post by AlexC04 » Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 4:25 AM UTC

gschier wrote: post #51

toastermoster wrote: post #49

I'm visiting Toronto and nobody here at the bar had heard this yet.

It's essentially "legal" in Canada already so no one really cares about it that much.

Oh no... now that it is legal, a number of the publicly traded cannabis companies will be able to actually start selling the product they’ve been stockpiling over the last year.

Everything we’ve seen for estimates is that even then, we’re only going to meet 50% of the demand.

Canopy Growth Corp, CBW, Aphira, Abcann... there are actually dozens of them and they’re going to be in for a good year for now and (hopefully) tremendous growth as well.

Some people care very much.