I'm visiting Toronto and nobody here at the bar had heard this yet.
It's essentially "legal" in Canada already so no one really cares about it that much.
Canada legalises recreational cannabis use
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wonder how many state has to legalize it before the federal government in USA is forced to change their classification. It's already arguably legal under federal law under the equal protection clause because congress legalized it in DC. As far as I know the feds aren't locking anyone up for possession of small amounts. E.g.: https://novacriminalattorney.com/marijuana/marijuana-legaliz...
I would argue that the 10 amendment in the Bill of Rights is all that a person would need to nullify gross overreaches of power by the federal government.
Good luck convincing the Supreme Court to upend the basis of a huge portion of federal law and decades of judicial precedence in favor of very broad readings of the enumerated powers.
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#53Should any substance which enhances the risk of schizophrenia be legalized? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317170.php It appears to me that if cannabis was a food additive with the same risk profile, no one would think it should be legal. I understand that the counter-argument is "What about tobacco/alcohol?" But those substances are already legal and there are no "equal opportunities" rights for drugs. Li…
The article states that age is a factor and children and teens are at risk. Marijuana age of consent is 19
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#54What do we do about heroin/opiods that are the real problem today? Cheap, highly addictive. Multiple overdoses today in my local news feed reported.... :( You cant overdose and die from MJ use (or its highly unlikely). This whole war on drugs thing feels like a game of smoke and mirrors...
Legalize cannabis. Opioid deaths have dropped here in Colorado since legalization.
Are individuals successfully transitioning from opioids to cannabis, or does legalization primarily affect the ratio of new users?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
In practice your assets will be civily forfeited, you'll be held in pre-trial detention (prison) for months, and then every lawyer will laugh you out of the room when you tell him you want to do a constitutional defense. "Just take the plea, I can get them down to 2 years. Otherwise youre facing 9 to 20 years."
What even are rights anymore.
The funny thing is that plenty of rights were won by legal system procedural shenanigans too...
Re: Canada legalises recreational cannabis use
#56Should any substance which enhances the risk of schizophrenia be legalized? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317170.php It appears to me that if cannabis was a food additive with the same risk profile, no one would think it should be legal. I understand that the counter-argument is "What about tobacco/alcohol?" But those substances are already legal and there are no "equal opportunities" rights for drugs. Li…
The article states that age is a factor and children and teens are at risk. Marijuana age of consent is 19
If you read any weed forum you’ll find endless posts of people who can’t smoke anymore because it causes paranoia and panic attacks. Same with me, used to be fun and now it causes anxiety. There are definitely some long term effects and changes to the brain that have not been sufficiently studied. Luckily it will be much easier now to do those studies.
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#57Should any substance which enhances the risk of schizophrenia be legalized? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317170.php It appears to me that if cannabis was a food additive with the same risk profile, no one would think it should be legal. I understand that the counter-argument is "What about tobacco/alcohol?" But those substances are already legal and there are no "equal opportunities" rights for drugs. Li…
> It appears to me that if cannabis was a food additive or sweetener with the same risk profile, no one would think it should be legal.
It's not. It's a drug similar to alcohol and will be regulated as it should be.
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#58I wonder how many state has to legalize it before the federal government in USA is forced to change their classification. It seems like more and more state will legalize it over time anyways.
Possible steps in that direction https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/08/trump-endorses-marijuana-...
You're being downvoted because it's Trump, which is bullshit.
It's the first time in modern US history that a sitting President has come anywhere close to declaring support for or proclaiming he'd be ok with the Federal Government legalizing recreational marijuana consumption.
The reason for that, is because Trump is an aggressive populist that doesn't particularly care about entrenched, ancient political live wires. He'll feel entirely free to respond to the Trump voting base as its opinion gradually changes in favor of legalization (as it largely has).
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#59I wonder how many state has to legalize it before the federal government in USA is forced to change their classification. It seems like more and more state will legalize it over time anyways.
States starting to legalize it was likely a big part of why the Canadian government became comfortable with the idea of legalizing it. The idea of legalization, or at least decriminalization, has been floating around in Canada since the 90s, but a major talking point against the idea has been that it would compromise Canada's relationship with the USA. Obviously as internal parts of the USA are legalizing it this is no longer so much of a concern.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wonder how many state has to legalize it before the federal government in USA is forced to change their classification. It's already arguably legal under federal law under the equal protection clause because congress legalized it in DC. As far as I know the feds aren't locking anyone up for possession of small amounts. E.g.: https://novacriminalattorney.com/marijuana/marijuana-legaliz...
Am I missing something or is your link making the exact opposite point that you made?
In this case the author is talking about using the 14th amendment to strike down state laws, but I was just talking about federal law. E.g. if the federal government allows people in DC to do something, then it has to allow everyone else to do that thing also.
The author is right that strictly speaking the equal protection clause only applies to state laws, but the supreme court has also retroactively applied it to federal laws as well: