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This writer circles poignant issues but I don't feel like he has enough insight to shed any real illumination on them. I'm actually pretty alarmed that he seems to think society no longer glamourises war and in almost the same breath describes how our cultural depictions are transmuted from showing outright psychopathy to evoking glamour (Wagner being played for the US invasion of Granada in 1983, 4 years after Apoca…
Fucking dickwads in this thread who can't understand that violence has solved more problems in human history than any other solution. Its like, "oh, I live in a peaceful society, therefore all other societies in the history of humanity should have known better" when they don't realize that america is very violent, has always been violent, and has more capacity for violence than any other society in the history of the…
You are 100% right. Violence (or threat of violence) is the answer to almost all problems.
> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."
Theodore Roosevelt, an admitted war enthusiast, once said: "A just war is in the long run far better for a man's soul than the most prosperous peace."
Do you have any insight or references I could read that would help me understand why someone would feel this way?
It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it. — Robert E. Lee
What I mean to say is this: Violence is built into every human being. Or as one of my favorite quotes of Captain Picard goes, "The seed of violence is within each of us". When I joined the army, I realized the most dangerous thing that could happen is for regular people to think that they're not capable of the things they read in the news.
> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."
"All men" or "all people" is a trope that should be erased from our vocabulary. Most statements making claims (esp. about the motivation) of "all people" are incorrect. Every person has their own opinion, and you simply can't generalize . Unless it's naïve tautological claims like "all people need food to survive".
For example - homosexual men are statistically more likely to belong to larger families. Evolutionary biologists believe that this is due to the presence of childless gay men benefiting the children of their siblings,thus genes that at first blush seem to be "for" non reproduction survive in the pool. (Someone should notify the Boy Scouts that they've got it exactly backwards).
What you can't do is generalise about individuals from their group membership (unless that membership is voluntary, and even that is fraught).
http://www.freedomkeys.com/ar-racism.htm
But yeah, looking at history, it really does seem like a lot of people, across racial, religious and cultural boundaries, loved war.
There ya go, the basics in easily digestible civilian form.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, in all of human history violence has been the go to solution: Problem: I'm hungry Solution: let's kill this mammoth and eat it (violence) Problem: there's not enough food Soloution: the neighboring country has food let's invade and take theirs (violence) Problem: I want to be king but I'm 2nd in line for succession Solution: assisinate the king and take his place (violence) Problem: over population in a region…
I don't know what you're trying to say. That violence has been used as a solution to problems? Sure. It has. That violence has, rarely, in some cases, been a sufficient answer for a problem? Sure. You cited a few. But that's not what you started out saying. You said that violence has "solved more problems in human history than any other solution" which is ridiculous. Oh, and I don't think hunting animals for food is…