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Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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No Microsoft fanboy, quite the contrary. But ended up installing Office 365 for my SOs business (~ 30 people) last year. And I'm properly impressed, by the amount of progress they do. It is a solid offering for very little money.

Yes something like Teams (Slack Clone) might be feel a bit betaish. But they are starting to add features such as recording of meeting, automatic transcribing and inline message translation.

I really think they are going to be hard to beat in the future.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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At a past consulting job the CEO claimed Google was reading his confidential information in the 00’s and refuses to use anything except Office 365. In his case confidence that MS will not act improperly is the most important feature.

As an engineer working on Docs and related products from inception through 2010: I would be astonished if this were the case. Had such behavior become known within the engineering team, there would likely have been an uprising. There was no backdoor mechanism for looking documents, at least on the Docs (word processing) side, and in any case this sort of thing Was Not Done. My guess is that things are locked down even more tightly now.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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5 to 10 years? I think you're vastly overestimating the time it takes to do such a move. Maybe 5-10 months .

People need to be trained, documents moved and converted, business processes adapted, ... In addition, solutions will have to be found for documents that exceed GSuite’s capabilities. 10 years? No, but 2-3 years for sure.

For 100% adoption sure, but for 95% or even 99% adoption, I doubt that long is necessary.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do. Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write…

Office 365 is though. - Microsoft Teams is a [bad] Slack clone. - Microsoft Planner is a [bad] Trello clone. - Outlook.com instead of the [bad] Outlook Desktop Application - Sharepoint online for a CRM - OneNote online for a shared scratchpad. The offline versions of Excel, Word, and Power Point have no online rivals but for collaboration Office 365 is one to watch. I'd even argue it has pulled ahead of Gsuite in the…

They are sort of.

Microsoft's problem with O365 is that they don't want to re-invent anything. Google has the opposite problem in that they re-invent chat a few times a year.

If you look at Teams or Outlook groups, they're just recycling features that exist already. The Office apps are getting better in the sense that they are getting closer to feature parity between the various versions of office -- but they are doing so in a way that will break enterprise IT.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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People need to be trained, documents moved and converted, business processes adapted, ... In addition, solutions will have to be found for documents that exceed GSuite’s capabilities. 10 years? No, but 2-3 years for sure.

For 100% adoption sure, but for 95% or even 99% adoption, I doubt that long is necessary.

> “We expect it to take up to 18 months to reach every one of our 130,000 employees but our teams are already starting to work on a plan which will involve you and of course our social partners,” said Enders.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Office 365 is though. - Microsoft Teams is a [bad] Slack clone. - Microsoft Planner is a [bad] Trello clone. - Outlook.com instead of the [bad] Outlook Desktop Application - Sharepoint online for a CRM - OneNote online for a shared scratchpad. The offline versions of Excel, Word, and Power Point have no online rivals but for collaboration Office 365 is one to watch. I'd even argue it has pulled ahead of Gsuite in the…

office 365 is far inferior to google docs for online collaborative document editing. You can lock the doc in office, you get into situations where it's very hard to safely have people collaborate on docs.

I don't find this to be true. For the last 2 years I have been using G-Suite and recently went back to O365. I find the collaboration features in the new version to be on par with googles. Also the UI is better, the online feature set is better, especially for PowerPoint and Word. As for Excel the desktop version is still the undisputed champion but it syncs up very quickly with others who are editing the same document on their desktop with excel.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Frankly, Docs, Sheets, and Slides are nowhere even close to Word, Excel, and Powerpoint in terms of feature set and usability. Sheets especially, but even in Docs and Slides I'll run into things I can't do. Where the G-Suite apps really shine, though, is in collaboration. If I'm working by myself on something, I'll likely do it in Office just because that's where I'm most comfortable. But literally everything I write…

Collaboration also goes beyond collaborating to produce the document. My company makes decisions in the comments of Google Doc proposals.

Office has a robust commenting and review feature set as well.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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> That's debatable. According to GitHub, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to open source projects. Sorry but this is so wrong, Google does not host any of its biggest project on github: Chromium and Android. There were articles written about this.

>>Sorry but this is so wrong, Google does not host any of its biggest project on github: Chromium and Android. There were articles written about this. I guess they are open source but they exist to line Google's pockets with even more money

Most of Microsoft contributions to open source are "how to make X work on windows or Azure" kind of projects such as linuxkit, node etc. There are a few exceptions though and it's getting better (yay) with really cool projects such as VS code and now many more.

Re: Airbus moves 130k employees from Microsoft Office to GSuite

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Yet android is distributed in a way leaves users with even less control than Windows.

So, is it possible to create your own forked open source Windows like CyanogenMod and tons of others in Android ecosystem?

would you call anyone capable of creating, or even installing something like CyanogenMod a user?
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