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Tiny, Wealthy Qatar Goes Its Own Way, and Pays for It

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Either you follow Russian media agencies closely so you can categorize information by national news agencies, or you're just labeling me for telling facts that you don't like to hear. Neither behavior is not smart.

The conspiracy theory crowd is always full of "facts" (ahem) that "people just don't want to hear". Because people "live in their bubble", obviously.

One of my fears is that I might be in a bubble, a conspiracy theory, of my own. Suggestions?

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I linked it because I keep a close eye on Putin's propaganda war on democracy and, specifically, on the EU (me being in the EU). But just re-read your comment and the connection is pretty obvious... > The goal was to create a new pipeline from Qatar to Europe so Europe don’t have to buy gas from Russia > Russia won the war in both Ukraine and Syria, at same time > Qatar and Turkey are now enemies on the Russian side.…

Either you follow Russian media agencies closely so you can categorize information by national news agencies, or you're just labeling me for telling facts that you don't like to hear. Neither behavior is not smart.

What are your news sources?

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If you really want to look for proofs, you can google it. I am an Arab and since the the mid 90s Qatar has been providing all Sunni islamic groups from MB, Hamas and Al Qaeda with all kinds of support (money, media, bribing western politicians, etc...)

If I google for this Saudi Arabia comes up first, by a big margin.

They are both the biggest sponsors of terrorism then come Turkey and Pakistan. The key difference between Qatar and Saudi Arabia is that Qatar always supports the more extremist faction in every conflict. Saudi Arabia may not do that in every case. For instance, Saudi Arabia funds MB in Syria and supported the revolution against them in Egypt.

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Here is my question for HN readers: do you trust this article? Because it tries to fool us. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Europe, US and Turkey was the big alliance which tried to take down Syria. Please check the records western news channels in 2013, it was full of joyful propaganda about Free Syrian Army fighting for democracy in Syria. The actual goal was of course had nothing to do with democracy and Arab spring was tota…

what are you talking about. that's a weird conspiracy theory you've got (and i know a lot of weird theories). but where do i begin. oil - yes europe want to reduce reliance on russian gas but there are a LOT of countries between qatar and europe. Arab spring - did NOT start in syria. in syria the flames were fanned by all interested countries in the hopes that a bunch of autocratic dictators would be overthrown with…

> these weren’t wars they were minor redeployments of resources

There have been 470,000 casualties in Syria. For comparison, that’s more than the US suffered in WW2, and that loss was felt. It’s a colossal humanatarian disaster and very much a war.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/syria

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Here is my question for HN readers: do you trust this article? Because it tries to fool us. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Europe, US and Turkey was the big alliance which tried to take down Syria. Please check the records western news channels in 2013, it was full of joyful propaganda about Free Syrian Army fighting for democracy in Syria. The actual goal was of course had nothing to do with democracy and Arab spring was tota…

Mr. Nuance/Intellectual Peace Prize winner would disagree with this.

Re: Tiny, Wealthy Qatar Goes Its Own Way, and Pays for It

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post #91
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The conspiracy theory crowd is always full of "facts" (ahem) that "people just don't want to hear". Because people "live in their bubble", obviously.

One of my fears is that I might be in a bubble, a conspiracy theory, of my own. Suggestions?

Having that fear is a very very good place to be, where most people at any one time is not.

Re: Tiny, Wealthy Qatar Goes Its Own Way, and Pays for It

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what are you talking about. that's a weird conspiracy theory you've got (and i know a lot of weird theories). but where do i begin. oil - yes europe want to reduce reliance on russian gas but there are a LOT of countries between qatar and europe. Arab spring - did NOT start in syria. in syria the flames were fanned by all interested countries in the hopes that a bunch of autocratic dictators would be overthrown with…

> these weren’t wars they were minor redeployments of resources There have been 470,000 casualties in Syria. For comparison, that’s more than the US suffered in WW2, and that loss was felt. It’s a colossal humanatarian disaster and very much a war. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/syria

i was referring just to russian deployments not to the whole mess. i agree about the whole thing being a disaster, a total clusterf.

russia didn't need to do to much due to all the efforts of the 4+ sides fighting each other.

Re: Tiny, Wealthy Qatar Goes Its Own Way, and Pays for It

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what are you talking about. that's a weird conspiracy theory you've got (and i know a lot of weird theories). but where do i begin. oil - yes europe want to reduce reliance on russian gas but there are a LOT of countries between qatar and europe. Arab spring - did NOT start in syria. in syria the flames were fanned by all interested countries in the hopes that a bunch of autocratic dictators would be overthrown with…

Qatar produce gas not oil. I know Americans call oil "gas" but this is actually the gaseous stuff. Europe is very dependent on Rusdian gas, not so much oil.

my apologies, mis-remembered.
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