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CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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We are talking about machines but during my last trip to Japan I’ve been blown away by the domotic present in the appartment I rented. There was a self-filling bathtube that I could program directly from the kitchen. Is there any « bathtube auto-fill/alexa » product in the US? I never been able to find something like that. I’d like to be able to ask alexa to prepare my bath while I’m cooking.

Sounds like a way to scald someone with a hack.

Edit: There was a self-filling bathtube that I could program directly from the kitchen.

How much do you want to bet that a US version would be networked, probably smartphone integrated?

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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The companion robots were there last year too (in Sands IIRC). They were also working when I passed them .. singing a creepy old McDonald had a farm. I spoke to a rep and she said kids can get rough with these things so they are targeting seniors. Yeah.. I dunno about this one. Cruzr was a big robot from a Shenzen company. I really liked it. I have seen Jibo in action .. the Cruzr I saw had a personality that surpise…

That table tennis robot looked like it cost a million bucks. I will say that VR was kind of absent last year and was absolutely everywhere this year. It still feels like we need a couple of years before the VR stuff is fully baked though.

Haha ... or more than a million!!

One thing I like about CES are the frank conversations with engineers. This year, I reached out to a few people. Had a very nice conversation with Karl Guttag (he has an optics blog http://www.kguttag.com/). I'm a newb in this area but had burning questions for a while .. he very patiently explained optics 101 and some of the implications. Very nice guy in person.

I also spoke to/saw engineering demos at the TI booth in LVCC, AMD and ARM booths at the Venetian/Sands, NXP and Qualcomm at LVCC. They have some private demos that are by appt only but usually let you in if you ask politely. I just went up and said I would like to know more about X or Y. Is there an engineer who can help me?

I also missed Kopin and Vuzix. Time was short and I could not find them :/

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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1) Get two dishwashers. Alternate them clean/dirty. Think of them as self-washing cabinets from sci-fi. 2) Get a laundry service or maid service. Save thousands of dollars.

Am I the only one that washes dishes immediately after use? No need to even use the machine. Wash immediately after use, let them dry on rack, wipe and put away. Dishes and laundry are a total non-issue.

Edit: Interesting to see this get voted up and down. I suppose because it appears to have a holier-than-thou tone. I don't really feel that way because I struggled to learn this stuff the hard way. I'm just hopeful someone will feel encouraged to try it.

Not the only one. Admittedly I don't have kids, but I'm familiar with family life and I don't think this is really that much of a problem.

I think a lot of people suffer from the problem of not being educated about how to do basic things around the house. They make huge problems for themselves. For dishes, the main key is just not to ever have dirty dishes. Definitely, do not store dirty dishes in the sink. Not only does it stop you from cooking, but it means you are almost certain to break stuff when you do eventually wash it (because there is no room).

The idea of storing dirty dishes in a dishwasher is also just bad. You either need 10 of everything, or you are stuck digging around and hand washing some horribly encrusted pot that you need. Instead, as you cook, clean. If you are in a typical North American kitchen, box off 90% of it and constrain yourself to an area that includes the sink, an area the size of your cutting board and your stove/oven. Hopefully the sink, board and stove are right next to each other. Keep a small dish of hot water and detergent right next to the sink with a sponge or cloth in it. Replenish occasionally (I usually use the kettle since it is faster and more efficient than trying to get small amounts of hot water out of the tap -- I lived 5 years in a house without hot running water and never missed it!).

Whenever you use anything, clean it right away. Also put it away. Specifically: pots, knives and cutting boards should never be dirty. Get a knife board (or similar). Clean your knife and put it away every time you use it. The 2 seconds you save by putting your knife on the board (or other hazardous place) is not worth it. Pots should be cooking something, storing something, or spotless. Similarly, your board should be in use or clean.

Try to make due (or 95% of what you do) with a frying pan, 1 small pot and one large pot. Then reuse these as you are cooking. Also, buy 1 good knife and do everything with it. Think of these things as being in your cache. Make it a cache miss to swap out to something else. Obviously you will occasionally need specialised tools, but try to keep these really infrequent. Finally, wash the kitchen before you serve the meal. It sounds crazy, but you should be able to do it in less than 5 minutes, so the food can wait. Not only will your kitchen always be clean, but you will dramatically increase the speed at which you can cook. It is really astounding how much better it is.

At that point, the only thing you ever need to wash are the dishes you are eating off of. If you are a couple, then it takes virtually no time. If you are a family, then this is good "family time" (teaching children that working is part of life is not the most terrible thing you can do).

For laundry, my wife does the laundry every day that's sunny. We store dirty laundry in the machine. (Hint: Always leave the machine door open if you can. A dry machine is a not-moldy-machine). As soon as we get up my wife turns on the machine. After breakfast she hangs the laundry outside. Total time: 5 minutes. When she gets home at the end of the day she folds the laundry. I work from home so if it starts to rain, or is too windy, I take the laundry in and fold it. Total time: 5 minutes.

When we lived in London (i.e. a-not-sunny-place), we hung everything indoors -- just make sure that the room is well ventilated, or you can cause problems with moisture. It sometimes took 2 days for some things to dry thoroughly, but you can quickly put a few things in the dryer for a couple of minutes if you don't want to wait -- normally takes less than 5 minutes to finish it off.

I used to wash all the laundry by hand (really)! Before breakfast, soak. Before taking a shower, drain and re-soak with detergent. After having a shower (not having clothes on means you don't have to worry about getting wet), wash and wring out the detergent. Rinse and soak in rinsing water. After getting dressed, brushing teeth, etc, wring out the water, then lay the clothes out onto towels. Roll up the towels with the clothes inside. Twist the towels to transfer the water into the towels. Total time: about 10 minutes. Downside: you need a couple of extra towels that you need to hang.

Now, the above is hard work if you have a lot of clothes, but it's practically trivial if you are doing it every day (I still do this when travelling). To be honest, a modern washing machine is stupidly efficient and does quite a good job, so might as well use it, but it's useful to realise how little hassle it is to do it by hand -- as long as you are doing it every day!

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Am I the only one that washes dishes immediately after use? No need to even use the machine. Wash immediately after use, let them dry on rack, wipe and put away. Dishes and laundry are a total non-issue.

I do too, with the help of scrubber with detergent ( https://www.amazon.com/Cleaning-Scrubber-Dispenser-Dishwash-... ) it's a 10 second job. Being single means my plate and bowl can simply sit in the rack until next use. It's not a significant time sink, I spend way more than that cooking meals in the first place. Similarly, washing clothes is not a significant time sink, 99% of the process is done by a machine unatt…

> Being single

That's about 25% of the US population. Those of us raising families do quite a lot of labour every day, at least while the kids are small.

A quick mental estimate says daily dishes for family of 4, 2 of whom are preschoolers, is about 12X my singleton workload. Also laundry every day at least one load, maybe two.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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I used to work in the event services industry and CES no longer needs to exist. All of the major companies can hold their own press events and promote their products. Why buy an exhibitor booth at CES when you could take the same money and DIY. Apple , Google and Microsoft get this. Also, things like Kickstarter do the same. In a few years CES , E3 won't really exist anymore they are already dead.

What about the independents and the start-ups? No great options exist for them.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

There’s an easy way to cut down on laundry - wear your clothes multiple times between cleanings.... honestly I usually wear jeans 2-3 days between washes. Everything else is single day only... except when I go backpacking and then wear the same thing for a week straight. The smell is... complex.

Chinos are fine with 2-3 days of wear between washes, jeans should be fine with a lot more. Unless you're a really sweaty person.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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post #76

This folding robot was at least more impressive in person. https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/10/16865506/laundroid-laundr...

That has real promise. Sounds like they just need brighter lights or a variable high contrast background to the sensors.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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That first recommendation is pure genius!

There exist single dishwashers that provide this capability, and they may suffice depending on your dishwashing needs and average load. 1: https://www.fisherpaykel.com/us/kitchen/dish-washers/dishdra...

I've read that the fisher paykel dishwashers have a lot of reliability problems compared to normal dishwashers unfortunately.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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post #5

Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

If the sky's the limit, I'd like kiva for my home. Maybe a dumb waiter would open in the wall with a little standard sized basket. I'd name what I'm storing, like tennis racket or snow shoes, and it would whisk it away to a storage space under the house or in the walls somewhere. I ask for it by name, the house brings it back to the portal. An uncluttered house where I can have anything I use once a year within secon…

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