Intel CEO: Patches will come to 90% of chips in the next week

Post by sounds » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 2:48 AM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #89

sounds wrote: post #62

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Let me break down what the article really says (it's pretty short): > He also said that Intel expects to issue updates > to its processors soon. More than 90 percent will be > getting them within the week, and the rest by the end > of January. Intel expects 90 percent will "get an update." 90 percent of what? It should be self-evident that Intel means 90 percent in whichever way gives them the largest percentage. I e…

...or maybe the other 10% are in-order non-speculative designs which are intrinsically immune; they still have a few: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quark (basically a die-shrink of a 486!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnell_(microarchitecture)

Post by kchoudhu » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 3:57 AM UTC

wildmusings wrote: post #83

rdtsc wrote: post #65

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> FreeBSD Security Team was notified of the issue in late December Anyone else thinks this was kind of a slap in the face to the smaller communities and companies or is it just me? They were notified in late December, right before the holidays, so that's basically only 2-3 weeks of work. Obviously nobody _had_ to notify anyone, could have just released it right away, so it was a professional courtesy, but why not ext…

The more people you tell, the higher the chance of a leak. "Loose lips sink ships."

Post by snuxoll » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 5:04 AM UTC

krylon wrote: post #64

ashleyn wrote: post #45

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I'm giving it one to two generations of CPUs before I do a new build.

But since the OS fixes to protect against meltdown come with a potential performance penalty, AMD is a better choice now than it was a week ago.

Post by flukus » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 5:33 AM UTC

petascale wrote: post #96

flukus wrote: post #35

According to last weeks press release, they mean 90% of recent chips, which is far less than 90% of intel CPU's out in the wild: https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-issues-update... > Intel has already issued updates for the majority of processor products introduced within the past five years. By the end of next week, Intel expects to have issued updates for more than 90 percent of processor products intro…

Presumably the launch date, Intel lists launch dates for all of their processors on ark.intel.com [1] 5 years is Haswell, so Haswell and newer should get the microcode fix. A 3 year old computer is likely to have a CPU no more than 4 years old, but you can look it up to verify. (Both Windows and Linux can show the CPU model, and Intel's Ark site gives the release date.) [1] https://ark.intel.com/products/series/75023…

Post by user5994461 » Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 6:38 AM UTC

kchoudhu wrote: post #93

wildmusings wrote: post #83

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The more people you tell, the higher the chance of a leak. "Loose lips sink ships."

FreeBSD isn't two people in a garage, it's a foundational part of the internet developed by professionals who can be counted upon to do the right thing. Intel and Google don't have a leg to stand on: I'm super glad they found the bugs, but their disclosure has been nothing but a shitshow.