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The absolute irony of a post on an account whose handle is "facts are sacred" that just declares that "multiculturalism and ethnic diversity erodes trust and causes social strive" without providing any form of justification, proof, actual study about the subject, without thinking about the pre-existing bias that might exist in society to make that all of that difficult on a daily basis. Weak sauce.
This is exactly how ethnic nationalism in America becomes normalized. Reminds me of the kid who protested in Charlottesville explaining that he wasn't a racist, he just really hated mass immigration and the ensuing diversity after 1965 (which was when immigration became accessible to non Europeans..).
Is billionaire VC Peter Thiel trying to break up Google?
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#93I think we've seen Thiel do this before, indirectly fund opposition to organizations he doesn't like when he can't attack them directly. He's also funded lots of politicians that work quite hard to restrict rights at every level of government, including, frankly, that are rather adamantly against equal rights for gay people. He's a great representation that some people will align themselves with anyone to further the…
> He's also funded lots of politicians that work quite > hard to restrict rights at every level of government, > including, frankly, that are rather adamantly against > equal rights for gay people. I don't really understand this. Isn't he gay? He doesn't seem an idiot to me so perhaps he doesn't see his actions in the same light as you do.
In a society where access to everything from justice to healthcare is wealth-driven, being rich will always be a stronger identity than any other. He might be gay, but he's rich and gay, which means he is not effected by essentially any anti-gay policy you could reasonably pass in the US. Even if being gay was banned, nobody is coming for the billionaires or their lovers anytime soon!
If you assume that his primary motivation is the acquisition of wealth and power, and that that gives him much more freedom than any gay rights bill could, it makes more sense. Of course it also makes him a prick.
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> It is rather less clear-cut than you claim My friend, my entire point was to illustrate that it is not "clear-cut". Far from it. We're in agreement ;)
If you wanted to illustrate that, you should not have written “shown (a priori and a posteriori) that multiculturalism and ethnic diversity erodes trust and causes social strive.”
Well, it has been shown by at least one (reputable) source.
Re: Is billionaire VC Peter Thiel trying to break up Google?
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Seems clear you are eluding to his endorsement and $1m contribution to the Trump campaign. We share different views - I am happy to disagree with you because I think Peter Thiel is to be commended for conducting business in line with his own philosophical & political views: this is perhaps the entire goal of business. From my perspective, he clearly sees the need for change in this world and works diligently to see t…
No, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the whole Gawker vs. Hulk Hogan trial thing, which was one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press in recent history. Whether you believe Gawker deserved it or not, he used Terry Bollea (Hogan) as a prop to push his own agenda.
>the whole Gawker vs. Hulk Hogan trial thing, which was one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press in recent history
What a disingenuous load of nonsense.
If you film people having sex with their permission, then you are a pornographer and subject to certain restrictions as to how you may publish your works.
If you film people having sex WITHOUT their permission or knowledge and post the videos online then you are a criminal and, in a just world, a benefactor would come to the aid of your victims and finance whatever legal proceedings necessary to drive your operation out of business.
Crying "freedom of the press" to defend sex criminals is absolutely reprehensible, as was Gawker's behavior both in this case and its repeated outing of homosexuals.
Re: Is billionaire VC Peter Thiel trying to break up Google?
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No, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the whole Gawker vs. Hulk Hogan trial thing, which was one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press in recent history. Whether you believe Gawker deserved it or not, he used Terry Bollea (Hogan) as a prop to push his own agenda.
>the whole Gawker vs. Hulk Hogan trial thing, which was one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press in recent history What a disingenuous load of nonsense. If you film people having sex with their permission, then you are a pornographer and subject to certain restrictions as to how you may publish your works. If you film people having sex WITHOUT their permission or knowledge and post the videos online then yo…
If Thiel sued over Gawker's outing of Thiel being gay, that would be okay. If Hogan sued and won on his own, that would also be okay.
What's not okay is using one's own immense wealth to fund litigation against a media outlet you do not like over issues unrelated to the reason you dislike them. There's no question this tips the balance of power.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the whole Gawker vs. Hulk Hogan trial thing, which was one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press in recent history. Whether you believe Gawker deserved it or not, he used Terry Bollea (Hogan) as a prop to push his own agenda.
No, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the whole Gawker vs. Hulk Hogan trial thing, which was one of the biggest attacks on freedom of the press in recent history. How is what Thiel did any different from what a nonprofit like the EFF or ACLU does every day? They identify legal cases they feel are important, and offer material assistance to the side they agree with. (Not attempting to defend either Thiel or Gawker, ju…
Another major difference is the concentration of power. EFF and ACLU are supported by thousands of volunteers and donors and must be accountable to them. Thiel is one person. The ability for an organization to attack a media company is significantly less of a threat than the ability of a single person to attack them.
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I mean, if you think you can get max diversity of ideas without also pulling people from different cultures, you’ve been around way too many white men.
Multiculturalism should be the means, but not the ends. The goal is to find max diversity of ideas, if you can achieve that by pulling in people from different cultures, fine, just don't make it your goal. After all, people from different cultures can think the same.
Is maximising diversity of ideas really the goal? Good ideas are worth a lot, bad ideas have zero value or negative value.
Diversity of ideas can be a good thing, but it can also mean diluting good ideas with ones that are valueless or actively harmful.
Re: Is billionaire VC Peter Thiel trying to break up Google?
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Maybe he was kicked off the board for 'wrong think' - he certainly was chastised by members of Facebook's board for endorsing & contributing to Donald Trump's Presidential campaign (Trump's victory vindication of said endorsement & contribution). While Thiel was endorsing/investing who would ultimately win - YC's President did the opposite. While Theil's endorsement/investment in Trump was based on principal - I don'…
> a prominent tech company claiming to invest in 'hackers' endorsing a candidate who had just been exposed as technically incompetent Her opponent is wildly incompetent with technology. I'm not sure why you latch onto this idea that Clinton was uniquely bad at IT. Googling comes up with exactly two photos of Trump ever using a computer. He doesn't even have a web browser on his phone [according to this NYT article](…
Hillary, as Secretary of State, had an unauthorized email server running from a household bathroom that was being used to transmit classified material (that she lied about).
If not technically incompetent, then sure - how about woefully ignorant, deceitful & corrupt and in no position to take lead role of the world's most powerful country. And that is not even taking into account the beef in the leaked emails, for example there are a lot of very curious tidbits in there not limited to the omnimous "I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker"[0] statement by her campaign manager John Podesta.
I don't know how any 'hacker' could honestly endorse this person, let alone the president of YC. No personal offense to Sam. I dont' judge people based on political opinion (especially cause an opinion is malleable; it can change and as such people shouldn't be judged based on them) but do like to point out anomalies & contradictions.
Re: Is billionaire VC Peter Thiel trying to break up Google?
#100I think we've seen Thiel do this before, indirectly fund opposition to organizations he doesn't like when he can't attack them directly. He's also funded lots of politicians that work quite hard to restrict rights at every level of government, including, frankly, that are rather adamantly against equal rights for gay people. He's a great representation that some people will align themselves with anyone to further the…
BTW I don't understand how fully-diverse, equally-represented companies haven't taken advantage of their unfair advantage and taken over the world yet :)