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Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by nkkollaw »

robwormald wrote: post #9

Angular core team here, we're pretty excited about this release. Main change, as noted, is the new View Engine. The design doc[0] is worth a read if you're interested in front-end at all. Happy to answer any questions! [0] https://docs.google.com/document/d/195L4WaDSoI_kkW094LlShH6g...

I have a question.

Who thought it was a good idea to make Angular 2 incompatible with Angular 1?

You had it, and you blew it. Most people aren't going to use any version of Angular, now, and have switched to React and Vue.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by jbergens »

coding123 wrote: post #25
git-pull wrote: post #17

I'll probably try it. But man, am I getting jaded about all this javascript framework stuff. Every 6 months stuff breaks, every 2 years there's a huge shift. The problem with javascript I've been facing is value. Time and effort doesn't always correlate to what I get in the other end. In fact, I can say when building, going single-page is a time sink. And it's almost always a mistake to go SPA first. Using a django o…

I'm actually really excited about Angular "2+" for something you've expressed here. I know that a React developer won't see this the same way, but I really feel like it's come down (for me at least) to either Angular "2+" or React - and whatever the reason someone is going to be on one side of the fence or the other. I've written smallish to largish programs in Vue, React, Ember, Polymer - and in all of those cases t…

You should probably check out CycleJs. Rx like and TypeScript.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by moloch »

robwormald wrote: post #19
aprdm wrote: post #14

Even with SemVer versions it looks really weird to see a new Angular relase branded as 4.0.0. Angular 1 to Angular 2 made me drop angular entirely, that happened less than 6 months ago I believe. Just reading Angular 4 gives me the creeps. Is 4 widely different from 2? How am I suppose to know if you using semver and already have a really bad history?

Most developers should be able to simply update their dependencies and rebuild. A few APIs have been deprecated, but they continue to exist and can be removed at a developer's leisure, per our versioning policy [0] http://angularjs.blogspot.com/2016/10/versioning-and-releasi...

Lol, if only the real world were that simple. I have an Angular 2.4 project that when updated to 4.0.0 produces about 300+ build time errors (guess you can't access `private` members from templates anymore, it'll be fuuuuuun updating every component and template to work with "backwards" compatible v4), but basically every other version of Angular breaks your code so you just sorta have to live with it.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by [deleted] »

sadok wrote: post #90
kitsune_ wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't want to sound like an ass, but if you were at the stage of 'learning AJAX' a couple of months ago you are probably not in a position to judge the merits of JS frameworks like React, Vue or Angular.

As someone who is new to React, Angular, Vue, etc., he/she is in the PERFECT position to judge them. Libraries/frameworks are not just about performance, but how you learn them as well. Those frameworks/libraries don't write themselves.

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Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by Uroboric »

tomelders wrote: post #59

I'll be that guy. I'm sure the Angular team are great people, and they're clearly talented devs... but stay away from Angular. It doesn't help with the problems you will actually face. Typed Javascript is a cargo cult. Angular just plain confusing for no apparent benefit. Dependency injection is bizarre. The distinction between modules, components, and directive is unnecessary. The Javascript community in general is…

I have about two years of experience with both Angular 1 and React. What was truly astounding to me was how while Angular required months of continually poring docs and Stack Overflow threads for every new thing I wanted to do, React took all of a week or two to get pretty comfortable with, and after that minor investment of time I was rewarded with dramatically increased development speed.

I will never go back to using a framework with an approach like Angular. Trying to abstract away the browser environment and have developers learn a whole new set of APIs with nearly the same level of complexity is just a fundamentally bad idea.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by camus2 »

kabes wrote: post #89

Just reading about 'renderModuleFactory' in this announcement makes it sound enough like Java EE bullshit that I want to stay far away from it.

> Just reading about 'renderModuleFactory' in this announcement makes it sound enough like Java EE bullshit that I want to stay far away from it.

it is old school JEE, which is ironic as JEE,Spring and all that bullshit are trying to move far away from what they used to be. All that complexity has a cost.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

#98

Post by sova »

sova wrote: post #88

Man y'all niggas is trippin. Angular changed completely with angular 2.0. If you say 2 and 1 are the same you are plain lyin' to yourself. I am not kidding. They are not the same thing, and should not be named the same. Likewise, pretending that 1+2 = 4 is just fool's talk. I don't care anymore for angular; Having your app-state in-sync with your code is great, but changing your whole paradigm every 6 months because…

Honestly, I don't care. Angular 2 was shit, and Angular 4 will certainly be even more shit. Google, get your shit together.

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by continuational »

coding123 wrote: post #25
git-pull wrote: post #17

I'll probably try it. But man, am I getting jaded about all this javascript framework stuff. Every 6 months stuff breaks, every 2 years there's a huge shift. The problem with javascript I've been facing is value. Time and effort doesn't always correlate to what I get in the other end. In fact, I can say when building, going single-page is a time sink. And it's almost always a mistake to go SPA first. Using a django o…

I'm actually really excited about Angular "2+" for something you've expressed here. I know that a React developer won't see this the same way, but I really feel like it's come down (for me at least) to either Angular "2+" or React - and whatever the reason someone is going to be on one side of the fence or the other. I've written smallish to largish programs in Vue, React, Ember, Polymer - and in all of those cases t…

How does RxJS solve the problem of virtual DOM?

Re: Angular 4.0.0 Now Available

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Post by rightnow »

kitsune_ wrote: post #85
thewhitetulip wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this, few months ago I was trying to learn AJAX, I tried Angular (because it is backed by Google), few weeks into reading more about it, I was still reading the docs. Then, I read that VueJS was a somewhat better and lean version of React, so I skipped React and started with Vue, I was surprised that I wrote the complete app within a week of starting to learn Vue ( https://github.com/thewhitetulip/Tasks-…

I really don't want to sound like an ass, but if you were at the stage of 'learning AJAX' a couple of months ago you are probably not in a position to judge the merits of JS frameworks like React, Vue or Angular.

Maybe not. But he is right though. Vuejs is doing everything right.
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