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Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by ue_ »

wycx wrote: post #84
ue_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is hardly unique to Australia. Britain, Canada, NZ all have no problem at all with censorship, so much that they will even censor fiction. These countries, one of whuch I am a citizen of, have not a single strand of libertarianism in government nor populace, and it's a shame.

Others would disagree that libertarianism is absent, and that its absence is a shame, e.g. [1]. Indeed, they say that the influence of libertarianism is responsible for some of Australia's governmental problems, most conspicuously on display this past week. [1] https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/06/01/rundle-the-liberal-part...

Oh, I didn't mean this. I think I have made a poor choice of words. I was referring more to having various rights and freedoms, outside of the economic sphere, such as freedom of speech, or privacy, or free association etc.

I'm an anarcho-Communist, actually. I wasn't referring to laissez-faire capitalism or neoliberalism. Sorry if this was your interpretation, I did not mean it that way!

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by ue_ »

vacri wrote: post #81
ue_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is hardly unique to Australia. Britain, Canada, NZ all have no problem at all with censorship, so much that they will even censor fiction. These countries, one of whuch I am a citizen of, have not a single strand of libertarianism in government nor populace, and it's a shame.

Yeah, how shameful. Aus/Can/NZ routinely top quality-of-life measures along with the nordic countries. Libertarianism is codified selfishness, and it's not conducive to healthy societies.

With regard to libertarian capitalism, I agree with your selfishness analysis. I wasn't referring to that, though, I was more referring to certain rights and freedoms guaranteed for example by the US constitution, and the lack of them in the countries I mentioned. Please see my reply to wycx.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by apk17 »

akjainaj wrote: post #83
apk17 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is not about the government ... "removing news articles that are politically unacceptable". That's actually part of the problem. The government should close down illegal establishments, and not just be blocking access to them. The other part of the problem: Once the gov can tell the ISPs what to block (a) the block list must be secret and (b) the process can be very easily abused, with 'overblocking' being the…

Your government can't close down illegal websites in other countries, that's why they're blocking them.

They could tell local authorities; this usually gets things done.

Unless, of cource, $activity isn't even illegal in that other country.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by lsh »

Untit1ed wrote: post #56
gravelc wrote: post #47

Much, much more frightening than website blocking in Australia is this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/telco-industry-pushes-... Our esteemed government told us universal metadata collection was for fighting terrorism. Then, over the Christmas period when the public is disconnected from politics, a sham enquiry was held to open up metadata to civil courts (i.e. for copyright, divorce cases etc). Needs a bit mo…

Not to mention that some sites will block you if using a VPN :(.

And that Cloudfront appears to hate and block those using VPN services.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by lsh »

mmjaa wrote: post #65
adentranter wrote: post #19

As an Aussie I find this pretty funny. Since they passed the law to make ISPs store your data ( which was a warning shot to piraters from my POV ) not many people's behaviours changed. Ie people still pirated. The difference between simply logging traffic and blocking certain sites means instead of being able to watch what I do, I'll be sign up to a VPN and they won't see any of my traffic. If anything blocking these…

As an Aussie, I find your lack of distrust over this issue, disturbing. We Australians have a long history of letting government get away with heinous actions; as long as the "she'll be right mate" meme still holds our brains under the tap, we'll never get the right kind of mad required to break the chains of the colony. Honestly, this isn't something to laugh about.

agreed - there is a kind of socially enforced apathy here as well as a separation of 'us' and 'them' when it comes to politicians and government - we let them get away with murder and never hold them accountable because raising a ruckus and making a big deal out of a thorny problem that requires a nuanced solution is seen as a sort of intellectualism. and your average Australian fucking hates an upstart know-it-all wanker.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by ggame »

wycx wrote: post #84
ue_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is hardly unique to Australia. Britain, Canada, NZ all have no problem at all with censorship, so much that they will even censor fiction. These countries, one of whuch I am a citizen of, have not a single strand of libertarianism in government nor populace, and it's a shame.

Others would disagree that libertarianism is absent, and that its absence is a shame, e.g. [1]. Indeed, they say that the influence of libertarianism is responsible for some of Australia's governmental problems, most conspicuously on display this past week. [1] https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/06/01/rundle-the-liberal-part...

Liberals are not very libertarian; especially under Malcolm Turnbull. There is a small strand of libertarianism and that's the Liberal Democratic Party.

Australia has an unsustainable property bubble that has made a large chunk of the middle class very wealthy. This has shifted the culture from self reliance to 'don't rock the boat.' This alone is an anti-innovation tragedy.

The bubble will pop eventually and the taxes will go up. Aus can't print new money and we have an untouchable entitlement culture. If you can't pay the new taxes they will use the firewall to block your site. It's going to be a mess and I wish them the best of luck.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by _coldfire »

akjainaj wrote: post #76
technion wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't far off.

I am asking because the Wikipedia article about "List of massacres of Indigenous Australians" claims that hasn't happened in about a century.

It's a common trope of the far left in Australia.

People aren't actually being killed.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by dublinben »

kristianp wrote: post #3

Wow, I didn't realise this had started. If I go to http://thepiratebay.se I get this message: Copyright Notice ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE THE FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA HAS DETERMINED THAT IT INFRINGES OR FACILITATES THE INFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHT. Please access the content you are seeking via licensed sites – www.digitalcontentguide.com.au provides information about many sources of licensed cont…

If anyone in Australia is interested, TPB is available as a Tor onion service: http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by mmjaa »

vacri wrote: post #70
mmjaa wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm Australian, and I decided 3 decades ago to not live there any more, because of what I saw was happening with the Internet and the way the country was crippling itself in comparison with the rest of the world. No amount of cheap plastic shit from China can keep me interested in a country so self-absorbed, and at the same time so utterly ignorant of the clear repression holding the nation back.

What wonderland did you move to?

Didn't matter, just moved. (I've lived all over the world.)

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by rqebmm »

lsh wrote: post #94
Untit1ed wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention that some sites will block you if using a VPN :(.

And that Cloudfront appears to hate and block those using VPN services.

Full Disclosure: I work for a private VPN company

This depends on the VPN provider. Private VPN services share IPs between customers, and the extra layer of privacy they provide comes with high potential for abuse. Some providers care more about preventing fraud than others. Cloudfront is likely just blocking IPs that have behaved poorly in the past, so I'd suggest you look for more reputable VPN providers that actively weed out fraudulent users.

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