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UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by toyg »

dwightgunning wrote: post #16
waterhouse23 wrote: post #5

Same deal in the UK. I wonder how long until the US goes down the same route. I'm quite surprised that they've gone down the DNS based filtering route. I'd expect that to change in a few years time. I recommend investing in a VPN service. They're relatively cheap. And if you pick the right one, the bandwidth is generally pretty good.

At some point all the interesting/useful countries to exit the VPN will be censored. Then it's game over.

No - then it's a business opportunity for smaller countries, with "looser" copyright rules and enforcement, to build a world-class VPN industry. The Switzerland of VPNs is a historical inevitability: even the rich and powerful need it.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by lokedhs »

unlikelymordant wrote: post #18
teraflop wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but an ISP should at worst be able to block connections to specific hosts or IP addresses. If they could generate certificates for arbitrary domains (like thepiratebay.se) allowing them to serve a "blocked for copyright infringement" page over HTTPS, then something would be seriously broken.

If it is just at dns, it can just point you to a different ip

Then the browser will refuse to serve the page since the certificate will not match the site you intended to go to.

Granted, they'll still stop you from going there but the user won't understand why it fails.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by akjainaj »

Why do they like to call it "censorship" when they just mean "piracy websites"? It's not like they're keeping you from publishing your thoughts about the government and the establishment, you just want to download series for free.

I don't mean to say you shouldn't be able to download your favourite series for free, but please don't use words such as "censorship" that make it look like the gov is threatening to send you to a gulag if you say the prime minister likes golden showers.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by dan1234 »

kristianp wrote: post #3

Wow, I didn't realise this had started. If I go to http://thepiratebay.se I get this message: Copyright Notice ACCESS TO THIS WEBSITE HAS BEEN DISABLED BECAUSE THE FEDERAL COURT OF AUSTRALIA HAS DETERMINED THAT IT INFRINGES OR FACILITATES THE INFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHT. Please access the content you are seeking via licensed sites – www.digitalcontentguide.com.au provides information about many sources of licensed cont…

My UK ISP (BT) has this:

"Access to the websites listed on this page has been blocked pursuant to orders of the high court.

More information can be found at www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk”

They do at least tell you which organisation applied for the blocking order at http://www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by Untit1ed »

gravelc wrote: post #47

Much, much more frightening than website blocking in Australia is this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-05/telco-industry-pushes-... Our esteemed government told us universal metadata collection was for fighting terrorism. Then, over the Christmas period when the public is disconnected from politics, a sham enquiry was held to open up metadata to civil courts (i.e. for copyright, divorce cases etc). Needs a bit mo…

Not to mention that some sites will block you if using a VPN :(.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by [deleted] »

unlikelymordant wrote: post #18
teraflop wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but an ISP should at worst be able to block connections to specific hosts or IP addresses. If they could generate certificates for arbitrary domains (like thepiratebay.se) allowing them to serve a "blocked for copyright infringement" page over HTTPS, then something would be seriously broken.

If it is just at dns, it can just point you to a different ip

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Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by dndln »

sspiff wrote: post #45
Insanity wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a similar situation here in Belgium in terms of blocking the pirating websites. I can not just access tpb as I get a warning that the site is "illegal" and I should not use it. The thing is that they do not block every domain from which people can torrent and there are plenty of mirrors to choose from. I agree that it will get more people to use a VPN. But that is, more _tech savvy_ people. I know quite a few…

Doesn't using a VPN make you liable in two jurisdictions instead of just one? (The exit point of the tunnel, and the location where you are actually connecting to the VPN) I understand that it is technically more challenging to detect and prove the user is participating in privacy or whatever it is that they're using a VPN for, but really it's just a matter of applying pressure to the VPN provider to cough up any det…

Sure, that's why the choice of VPN provider is important. You need to choose a provider which doesn't keep logs, and has the character to shut down their business before being legally compelled to reveal users, like lavabit did. You can read this thread for an example: https://airvpn.org/topic/15396-does-airvpn-log-its-users-ip-...

For additional protection, you can also run Tor over VPN.

Re: UnblockOz: Helps Australians reclaim their unfiltered Internet access

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Post by nickonline »

gonzo41 wrote: post #39
secoif wrote: post #25

Something very unsettling about a government mandating ISPs block/sniff/track your internet traffic on behalf of the film industry. If only the government was equally motivated to remedy injustices incurred by those who aren't already filthy rich.

Don't worry this isn't a concerted effort to actually block things. Its a pretty weak effort to go through the motions. If your tuned into this debate at a federal level there are a vocal bunch of senators bemoaning the Australia tax that our geography puts on us. These guys put out info on how to use vpns and avoid geoblocking and such for the masses. Best in show example: Adobe software and Game of thrones. Austral…

A bunch of convicts the lot of us.
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