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With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Let me be clear to you. If you do not want to put in the "investment and effort to run just so that I can control my computer" required to actually do the job of administering your PC correctly, but still want all the safety features built into consumer Windows turned off for your benefit anyway, STAY OFF THE SAME INTERENET AS ME. You're the electronic equivelent of someone who refuses to vaccinate their kids but sti…

You have a very... unique view on security.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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I upgraded willingly so the deceptive upgrade practices, while deplorable, didn't really affect me. What does affect me is that Microsoft refuses to let me control my computer. - If you turn off Windows Defender Real Time Protection it explicitly tells you "You can turn this off, but if it's off for a while we'll turn it back on". It turns itself on upon next reboot, it seems. - You can't turn off Windows Update. It…

I see so many people stuck in the gaming situation and there are no practical solutions, the only way out involves an entire industry changing direction together. I'd like to see a video card manufacturer (probably AMD since they seem to be the underdog in a 2 dog fight) start a Linux-first campaign, even if it's only for select cards.

AMD already is making a good open source driver for Linux, and both AMD and nVidia has been making proprietary drivers for Linux for a while.

Also AMD seemly releases some "Pro" features for workstation on Linux first.

The problem of Linux gaming is not the graphics drivers, in fact this part has been working "ok" for a while now.

The problem with Linux gaming is:

1. Audio is still a mess, the fastest audio library still is OSS4 (not 3), that won't ever get in the mainstream distributions (sometimes it is even explicitly banned and will get you banned from forums and irc servers if you ask about it), JACK still is finnicky to work with, PA is still buggy and slow, and ALSA although much better now, is also too slow and has terrible API (while coding for OSS, any version, is very easy).

2. Desktop is still a pain to setup, even the most "GUI-happy" distros still have problems here and there, when I asked some random people about it, I got outright hostile replies, people telling me they deliberately don't want to make Linux easier, because they don't want "dumb people using something they are not worth using", mind you, this wasn't once, or in one community, more than one person shared this view with me.

3. Some people in the community are outright hostile to games, and even sabotage efforts to make games work better, I saw a flamewar where one guy was claiming games were purely dumb entertainment, and that people that played games weren't not only inferior humans, but people that deserved Windows, as punishment. This guy was of the opinion that no GUI server should ever support exclusive fullscreen properly, that instead they should have all features focused on "Work" features always.

4. Lots of other random hardware is a pain to setup on Linux, even things that usually don't cross people minds, for example I couldn't figure how to make Linux properly support my motherboard Super I/O chip, that is even a common one, I even convinced the manufacturer to give me the chip datasheet, but I couldn't even figure to what project I would need to contribute code. (as for what the Super I/O chip does: control the motherboard sensors, fans and power distribution, including voltage values and regulation commands on my motherboard)

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

#93

I upgraded willingly so the deceptive upgrade practices, while deplorable, didn't really affect me. What does affect me is that Microsoft refuses to let me control my computer. - If you turn off Windows Defender Real Time Protection it explicitly tells you "You can turn this off, but if it's off for a while we'll turn it back on". It turns itself on upon next reboot, it seems. - You can't turn off Windows Update. It…

What is UWP?

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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I upgraded willingly so the deceptive upgrade practices, while deplorable, didn't really affect me. What does affect me is that Microsoft refuses to let me control my computer. - If you turn off Windows Defender Real Time Protection it explicitly tells you "You can turn this off, but if it's off for a while we'll turn it back on". It turns itself on upon next reboot, it seems. - You can't turn off Windows Update. It…

Everything you've listed is addressable by enterprise users in an AD environment. I.E., Microsoft's real customers. Using a copy of Windows 10 with no Cortana, Auto-updates, Groove, or Windows Defender right now.

Yes. If you want that control, all you have to do is buy a subscription [0]. $7 per month isn't that much to be able to control your own computer is it? That's only $84 per year or $252 every 3 years -- it's practically a discount for buying an upgrade every 3 years!

[0] http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts...

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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I upgraded willingly so the deceptive upgrade practices, while deplorable, didn't really affect me. What does affect me is that Microsoft refuses to let me control my computer. - If you turn off Windows Defender Real Time Protection it explicitly tells you "You can turn this off, but if it's off for a while we'll turn it back on". It turns itself on upon next reboot, it seems. - You can't turn off Windows Update. It…

Everything you've listed is addressable by enterprise users in an AD environment. I.E., Microsoft's real customers. Using a copy of Windows 10 with no Cortana, Auto-updates, Groove, or Windows Defender right now.

What is "AD environment"? Sounds like maybe what I want.

I want no updates or changes of any kind without my knowledge. Indeed, before any change, I want to backup the relevant boot partition so that I can restore it if any changes are harmful or doubtful.

For Cortana, when I looked at it, everything it has I have a lot better with just my favorite programmable text editor and a few simple macros.

Uh, to reply, I have to edit my post! So, here is my reply!

My now very old and crude understanding is that Active Directory is a standard part of Windows Server and plays the role of essentially the old MIT system Kerberos for authentication.

My concern is that ASAP I need to take my Web site software currently in alpha test and have it go live. For that, for maybe just a few, first users, I could use just my development computer running Windows 7 Professional. But, also on that computer I intend to have at least one bootable partition with Windows Server.

So, with Windows Server, I could be running Microsoft's Active Directory. Fine with me.

Then that means that somehow all my bootable partitions with Windows 7 or Windows Server will not get updates or changes without my explicit permission? Hope so.

Or maybe your point is just that the automatic updates don't apply to Windows Server? I would believe so.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Specifically, when prompted with a Windows 10 update, if the > user chose to decline it by hitting the ‘X’ in the upper right > hand corner, Microsoft interpreted that as consent to download > Windows 10. So what? I clicked that X multiple times and it didn't _install_. It may have _downloaded_, I'm not sure, but did not install.

> It may have _downloaded_, Was it bright enough to reliably detect metered connections (did it even try at all?). If not then just this could have cost people money. And consuming a couple of Gb of space could be a noticeable inconvenience on a small system (say one of the many tables and laptops with nothing more than a 64 or 32gb solid state drive).

If you marked your connection as metered, I believe it respected that and wouldn't download it.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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I think that Microsoft could fix this fairly easily: make an easy opt out for Cortana and telemetry, offer more control over security options.

I totally sympathize with Microsoft for wanting everyone to be on Windows 10, with continuous updates (security and otherwise). Better for them and long term probably better for users.

I don't use OS X anymore but when I did, I liked always being at the latest update.

Except for my iPad, I use Ubuntu Linux laptops and like keeping every device up to date.

Pardon a tangent, but: society as a whole really needs a "going to the moon" level global project to harden computing devices. As an end user of technology I am willing to keep my devices up to date and I try to be understanding of Apple, Microsft, and Ubuntu (and other Linud distros).

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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"But it’s a shame that Microsoft made users choose between having privacy and security."

Great article, but this part is simply wrong. Microsoft chose to remove both. You now have an operating system without security that is known to steal data and install things on its own (malware). How can EFF say this OS is more secure when Microsoft can and does access any data on the system at any time without asking for permissions? When even the permissions dialogs are fake? To classify this as anything but malware would be willful stupidity at this point.

It's not that the OS has less security, now it has none. In fact, users running Windows 10 might want to question whether they even own their machines anymore. Physical possession aside, when one no longer controls the software or data on a machine can one be said to own said machine? Can one be held responsible for what it does? What if Microsoft decides to download child porn on everyone's machine? Considering what they've done in the last year, I wouldn't put it past them.

Re: With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'd be annoyed if my home builder occasionally came through my house while I was gone in an attempt to analyze how I was arranging furniture and using my space. They could, undoubtedly, use that data to better their future work - but I'd still feel violated. Too bad. If you sign a contract with your builder allowing him to do this, or you sign a contract allowing him to change your agreement and force new terms on y…

While true, this also gets into the ethical, moral and legal obligation a company has when for all practical purposes they have a monopoly on a market segment. This type of action is what got MS is legal trouble in the EU and US in the 90's

>While true, this also gets into the ethical, moral and legal obligation a company has when for all practical purposes they have a monopoly on a market segment.

First off, companies do not have ethical or moral obligations at all. Corporations are purely amoral. It's up to customers to penalize them for unethical or immoral actions by refusing to support them. If the customers refuse to stop throwing money at them, it's the customers that are to blame.

Secondly, MS does not have a monopoly, except for having an OS that runs software designed to run on Windows, just like Apple has a monopoly for the market of "OSes that run software designed to run on iOS or OSX". Lots of people run Macs rather than Windows-based PCs, and some run Linux. If you're not happy with Windows, it's your job to look for alternatives, just like if you're not happy driving a Chevy, it's your job to look at Hondas and Subarus instead of whining that Chevy isn't living up to your expectations.

MS didn't have any legal trouble in the US, ever. They "lost" an antitrust trial in the 90s and the penalty was absolutely nothing, and that trial was all about their OS forcing the bundling of their browser. Their OS still forces the bundling of their browser, except these days, only clueless morons actually use IE/Edge, and everyone else uses either Firefox or Chrome or some variant (while some use Safari). In fact, last I heard, Chrome had the largest marketshare of all browsers.

The lesson here is that if you're hoping for the government to step in and save you, you're hopelessly naïve, as proven by history. The US government in particular is never, ever going to do anything to rein in MS, and really, why should they at this point? As I pointed out above, if you don't like Windows, there are viable alternatives now (the alternatives were much worse in the late 90s, now they're actually much better). If your 3rd-party software vendor doesn't support non-Windows platforms, then maybe you should find a better one.

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