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Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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German cops are not brutal? If you cause ANY type of disturbance on the street in Berlin, they simply dispatch a massively overwhelming number of riot police to come and beat the living crap out of you. I saw numerous riot police deployed in full gear several times per month when I was in Berlin, more every single month than the grand total of all the riot police I have ever seen during several decades in the US -- a…

Berlin is a failed state. The riot police in Berlin is abused by Interior Minister Henkel as his personal bully crew to provoke left-wing activists, in order to produce riots on the streets, which Henkel can then again use in his election campaign (you can google "Rigaer 94" for more details). I'll be in Berlin on Saturday for the big rally, I'm pretty sure it will be yet another display of police brutality. All in o…

What happens if you hold an anti-gentrification protest on the streets of Munich without having obtained a formal permit in advance?

Yes, the use of riot police is exaggerated in Berlin, but comparing it to a "failed state" seems rather absurd. Damascus or Baghdad are doing a whole lot worse.

That reminds me of how I'd see people on the subway platform shaking their heads sadly and complaining that "Berlin is such a disaster; public transportation in Berlin has fallen to third world levels" when a train was (rarely) 1 minute late.

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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"incoherent", "claiming to have been beaten up by police" http://archive.is/vBS6N I wouldn't call those incoherent - I'd call them distressed and angry at having been beaten up by the police. They say he hit his head on the cage separator - which is a classic cop write-up for after they've roughed you up.

They're pretty incoherent. His retelling has a really jumbled timeline. Part of that might be missing context if he was replying to other tweets but they aren't linked. The ones that are linked don't look much better, though. His tweets to @jackstormwriter don't make much sense unless the archive somehow lost most of the ones from @jackstormwriter. He also claimed that the police assaulted him at his own home, while…

> while reports indicate

Call me cynical, but I've passed the point where I assume that an american police report is anything but the most convenient story.

I'm well aware that most police departments only have a few bad apples. But the problem is instead of throwing the bad apples out, they are protected and left to rot the remaining bunch.

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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There is a lot of space between doing nothing, or filing a complaint that gets thrown in a wastebasket, and having a lynching. Why, for example, don't we have in-depth media coverage of the cops who did these killings? What are their backgrounds? Do they have a history of extralegal violence? What are their community connections, and do those have anything to do with them not having been arrested for, at least, mansl…

I think you're lost, here http://www.infowars.com is where you probably meant to go. You're welcome.

That's a pitiful sentiment, that intense press coverage of thuggish police should be considered "conspiracy theory" of some sort. It's consumerism, in the way the first world people expect their food not to be contaminated, or our cars not to catch fire.

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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because posting on HN is a social fix ? and im moronic ?

Attitudes like yours are poisonous in general , not just on HN. And yes, your paranoid belief that all police are evildoers just waiting around every corner to assault strangers is moronic. Your paranoia is stopping you from engaging in rational thought about the police.

its not paranoia... its experience

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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"incoherent", "claiming to have been beaten up by police" http://archive.is/vBS6N I wouldn't call those incoherent - I'd call them distressed and angry at having been beaten up by the police. They say he hit his head on the cage separator - which is a classic cop write-up for after they've roughed you up.

They're pretty incoherent. His retelling has a really jumbled timeline. Part of that might be missing context if he was replying to other tweets but they aren't linked. The ones that are linked don't look much better, though. His tweets to @jackstormwriter don't make much sense unless the archive somehow lost most of the ones from @jackstormwriter. He also claimed that the police assaulted him at his own home, while…

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Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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post #74

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Attitudes like yours are poisonous in general , not just on HN. And yes, your paranoid belief that all police are evildoers just waiting around every corner to assault strangers is moronic. Your paranoia is stopping you from engaging in rational thought about the police.

its not paranoia... its experience

When you believe that police waiting outside a random person's house with the goal of pointlessly attacking them is more likely than a psychotic break, that's paranoia. When you think all police are fundamentally bad people, that's paranoia.

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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They're pretty incoherent. His retelling has a really jumbled timeline. Part of that might be missing context if he was replying to other tweets but they aren't linked. The ones that are linked don't look much better, though. His tweets to @jackstormwriter don't make much sense unless the archive somehow lost most of the ones from @jackstormwriter. He also claimed that the police assaulted him at his own home, while…

> while reports indicate Call me cynical, but I've passed the point where I assume that an american police report is anything but the most convenient story. I'm well aware that most police departments only have a few bad apples. But the problem is instead of throwing the bad apples out, they are protected and left to rot the remaining bunch.

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Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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They're pretty incoherent. His retelling has a really jumbled timeline. Part of that might be missing context if he was replying to other tweets but they aren't linked. The ones that are linked don't look much better, though. His tweets to @jackstormwriter don't make much sense unless the archive somehow lost most of the ones from @jackstormwriter. He also claimed that the police assaulted him at his own home, while…

> while reports indicate Call me cynical, but I've passed the point where I assume that an american police report is anything but the most convenient story. I'm well aware that most police departments only have a few bad apples. But the problem is instead of throwing the bad apples out, they are protected and left to rot the remaining bunch.

Not just police reports. No one so far as I'm aware, aside from Murdock himself, has put forth evidence of anything that disputes the police's claims. No news reports have uncovered a scandal or evidence of wrongdoing that I've seen.

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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Berlin is a failed state. The riot police in Berlin is abused by Interior Minister Henkel as his personal bully crew to provoke left-wing activists, in order to produce riots on the streets, which Henkel can then again use in his election campaign (you can google "Rigaer 94" for more details). I'll be in Berlin on Saturday for the big rally, I'm pretty sure it will be yet another display of police brutality. All in o…

What happens if you hold an anti-gentrification protest on the streets of Munich without having obtained a formal permit in advance? Yes, the use of riot police is exaggerated in Berlin, but comparing it to a "failed state" seems rather absurd. Damascus or Baghdad are doing a whole lot worse. That reminds me of how I'd see people on the subway platform shaking their heads sadly and complaining that "Berlin is such a…

It's not just the police.

- the disaster called BER

- failure of basic public services (there are even talks about canceling the upcoming election because the citizens cannot register, due to a combination of gross mismanagement and ancient hardware)

- schools are literally falling apart and even urgent repairs cannot be done because of authority issues (who is supposed to pay for what); alone the schools would need 5B € to fix, not to mention the other public buildings

- corruption scandals

- gentrification

- complete disregard for human rights in regard to refugees

Re: Autopsy reveals Debian founder committed suicide

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He was in the process of attempted breaking and entering on someone's house. Everyone is glossing right over that fact. This is not some innocent man who was randomly beat up by the police. He was committing a violent crime and it sounds like reasonable force was used to stop it and protect the other citizens who were endangered. Read the other responses I've left for more. I'm actually quite critical of the police i…

No, he wasn't. He was banging on their front door, admittedly hard, but that doesn't constitute breaking and entering anywhere , as he neither broke nor entered, nor was attempting to do so. If you want to break and enter, you use a window, not the frigging front door. Also, if it were breaking and entering, they would have charged him with that. Instead, it's " Suspicion of intoxication", "Resisting Arrest" and "Ass…

maybe the neighbour or an attorney or whoever could didn't press charges.
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