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US and Saudis are both funding ISIS, and the latter cannot do it without the permission of the former.
Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
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#92One frustrating thing that the author gets wrong is labelling Iran the "Gray Daesh." Iran has geopolitical conflict with the West, but it's a false equivalent of Saudi Arabia. Iran is a theocracy trying to control a population that growingly wants to be secular. Women in Iran go to university at higher rates than men, can drive, hold office, and vote. Life in Iran for a women is not perfect but is heaven compared to…
Yes I agree, the Iranians are on a different level regarding education, academia and culture. They will eventually transform into a relatively free society if we don't interfere.
We don't need your freedom, we are free, you are slave of your credit card company and bank, mind your own business. -- An Iranian
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#93I commented this in a post 3 days ago.it is completely applicable here,I know maybe this is not right thing to do -copying my old cm- but those point I think closely related to the topic.( there will be Isis like groups until West's ally in middle East is most corrupted regime maybe in world.how do you want people to not be terrorist when Saudi Arabia is one of the closest society in planet . how do you expect people…
I get this is an emotional response and somewhere 3/4th in, it turns into drivel with Texas women and such. I do believe violence begets more violence. Further I believe the complexity is something akin to the butterfly effect where doing something can cascade into something big in half a century. Take for example the drone strikes. The kids who manage to live through it would have have pent-up animosity towards the west when they hit teenage.
What we are seeing is just the result of some bad foreign policy.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Islam is not threatening the West's existence.
@raverbashing since i can't reply to the child We also have abortion clinic bombings, shootings and arsons done by christians. There was one recently in Pullman, WA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_...
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really. The US shot a missile at Iranian Airliner (killing all civilians on board) and coup'd Iran's Democracy in the 1960s. Iran held US personnel as hostages for a year and imprisons our visitors. They are also sworn enemies to US Allies like Israel. Iran is "bad" because they are our enemy. And they see the US as "bad" because we've been their enemy in the past. There is absolutely nothing strange about the ha…
> It is simple politics and history American was at war with Japan and Germany not to long before as well. Now we are best buddies. Things can change if the money's right.
There was a fairly complete turnaround in the politics of both Germany and Japan after they lost the Second World War, in case you didn't notice. The "money's right" came as a consequence of that.
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#97This feels like it could have come out of Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. The xenophobic S.O.B.s of America.
Re: Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It
#98One frustrating thing that the author gets wrong is labelling Iran the "Gray Daesh." Iran has geopolitical conflict with the West, but it's a false equivalent of Saudi Arabia. Iran is a theocracy trying to control a population that growingly wants to be secular. Women in Iran go to university at higher rates than men, can drive, hold office, and vote. Life in Iran for a women is not perfect but is heaven compared to…
As Iranian (I am commenting from Tehran) I completely approve your point of view.I even explained in long comment in this post(you can find it in bottom).Iranian regime nightmare is liberal people( because they are the most effective opposition to current regime, all of other opposition's dismantled by regime very easily they don't even exist in society). you know why? Because they are only threat to nature of this u…
Well, porn usually doesn't help much. How about proper education and teaching people to respect women and minorities?
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#99Saudi Arabia is also the biggest exporter of Radical Islam
" Indian intelligence says that in India alone, from 2011 to 2013, some 25,000 Saudi clerics arrived bearing more than $250 million to build mosques and universities and hold seminars. "We are talking about thousands and thousands of activist organizations and preachers who are in the Saudi sphere of influence," said Usama Hasan, a researcher in Islamic studies.
These institutions and clerics preach the specifically Saudi version of Sunni Islam, the extreme fundamentalist strain known as Wahhabism or Salafism."
Source: http://theweek.com/articles/570297/how-saudi-arabia-exports-...
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#100The author has a point. Most of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis. Bin Laden was a Saudi. Saudi Arabia is a dysfunctional country propped up by oil money. It's even more insular than it used to be. Saudis used to send their kids to the US to go to college, with Government funding. Now Saudi Arabia has enough educational institutions that they don't do that. Years ago, I met a Saudi girl finishing Stanford who mentioned…
As someone pointed out to me earlier this week here on HN, Seymour Hersh's article on the Bin Ladin assassination, the real story of Al Qe'da is that the Saudis funded it tacitly. And as a result Saudi government is partially responsible for 9/11. The sooner we figure out how to make petroleum irrelevant, the sooner places like Saudi lose their influence. Gas == War.
I imagine that any country near Israel will never become to irrelevant to the US because protecting our long time ally Israel is hugely important.