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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by navane »

layer8 wrote: post #601
navane wrote: post #582

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams winning on price instead of quality is very telling of the state of business. Your #1/#2 communication tool being regarded as a cost to be saved upon.

It’s “good enough” and integrates into existing Microsoft solutions (just Outlook meeting request integration, for example), and the competition isn’t dramatically better, more like a side-grade in terms of better usability but less integration.

You still can't copy a picture out of a teams chat and paste it into an office document without jumping through hoops. It's utterly horrible. The only thing that prevents people from complaining about it is that it's completely in line with the rest of the office drone experience.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by katamari-damacy »

carbocation wrote: post #606
Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

Pro does have longer context windows , specifically 128k. Take a look at the pricing page for this information: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing/

ChatGPT and GPT4o APIs have 128K window as well. The 32K is from the days of GPT4.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rtwld »

bobnamob wrote: post #810
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #800

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poe.com goes straight to login page, doesn't want to divulge ANY information to me before I sign up. No About Us or Product description or Pricing - nothing. Strange behavior. But seeing it more and more with modern web sites.

I wouldn’t bother with Poe, poe2 early access costs $30 and starts on the 6th

I think you’re confusing it with Path of Exile 2? That’s the same mistake ChatGPT made…

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by HanClinto »

aliasxneo wrote: post #138
griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

I haven't used ChatGPT in a few weeks now. I still maintain subscriptions to both ChatGPT and Claude, but I'm very close to dropping ChatGPT entirely. The only useful thing it provides over Claude is a decent mobile voice mode and web search.

I'm in the same boat — I maintain subscriptions to both.

The main thing I like OpenAI for is that when I'm on a long drive, I like to have conversations with OpenAI's voice mode.

If Claude had a voice mode, I could see dropping OpenAI entirely, but for now it feels like the subscriptions to both is a near-negligible cost relative to the benefits I get from staying near the front of the AI wave.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by apugoneappu »

danpalmer wrote: post #515
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

ChatGPT does have an enterprise version.

I've seen the enterprise version with a top-5 consulting company, and it answers from their global knowledgebase, cites references, and doesn't train on their data.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

mtlynch wrote: post #664
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

Thanks for the tip! Now I'm a Kagi user too.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by osigurdson »

danpalmer wrote: post #515
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

>> internal permissions model

This isn't that big of a deal any more. A company just needs to add the application to Azure AD (now called Entra for some reason).

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by cess11 »

danpalmer wrote: post #515
fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

The problem is that OpenAI don't really have the enterprise market at all. Their APIs are closer in that many companies are using them to power features in other software, primarily Microsoft, but they're not the ones providing end user value to enterprises with APIs. As for ChatGPT, it's a consumer tool, not an enterprise tool. It's not really integrated into an enterprises' existing toolset, it's not integrated int…

Decision making in enterprise procurement is more about whether it makes the corporation money and whether there is immediate and effective support when it stops making money.
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