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Just wait a couple years when truth becomes too difficult to discern. Fairly easy to plug up forums, science journals, YouTube etc with whatever narrative you want once AI gets a little better.

I, for one, look forward to this future where we finally get over our weird obsession with truthfulness.

Sounds like you'll enjoy living in a Soviet environment. Which is the sort of thing you get when politics and governance is entirely built out of lies.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson, he mentions how he (VK) met with Zuckerberg, and he told them new features they were planning. And Zuck nicked them all. Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says.

>Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says Exactly this. It is incredible bizarre how his imagine has taken such a drastic turn from being a "hacker" to a "Jiu-Jitsu bro."

HN already take a side.

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More to the point: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/06/scotus-tosses-cl... "On Wednesday, the Supreme Court tossed out claims that the Biden administration coerced social media platforms into censoring users by removing COVID-19 and election-related content."

Further in that article: > “For months, high-ranking Government officials placed unrelenting pressure on Facebook to suppress Americans’ free speech," Alito wrote. "Because the Court unjustifiably refuses to address this serious threat to the First Amendment, I respectfully dissent." It seems like the court had agreement that government coercion did happen. They threw the case out because they couldn’t draw a direct…

No one was forced to do anything.

Full stop.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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I, for one, look forward to this future where we finally get over our weird obsession with truthfulness.

We need truth to survive though. Literally.

Within a community where it is equally devastating to the person who told the mistruth should you be harmed by it, sure, but the random blowhard on the internet who couldn't care less about you has no reason to think about you at all. Per the discussion taking place, crying that they didn't tell the truth is the stupidest thing imaginable.

Said blowhard moving to using generative AI to come up with even crazier nonsense makes no difference. There is no logical reason for you, outside of whatever entertainment value you can find, to be listening to him in the first place and, even if only deep down, you know that.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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You’re thinking of the FBI, who reported to Trump. The Biden campaign reported things like the non-consensual nudes which did not have any justification as a public interest story.

>You’re thinking of the FBI, who reported to Trump. You wrote that I’m sure doing your very best to believe it. Bless your heart.

I don’t have to make an effort to believe it. It’s what all of the evidence shows – even your guys running through Twitter’s internal communications for months couldn’t find any evidence of the alleged censorship campaign. The best Taibi could come up with is presenting links to deleted tweets and counting on his readers not to check archives to realize they were nude photos rather than something politically relevant.

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Key point here for me was that this was on FB, and no one else. Zuckerberg might regret doing this, but he did it. No one else. And, unless he is lying, he wasn't forced to do this. So, really, nothing more to add. Should note: The Supreme Court in June tossed out claims that the Biden administration coerced social media platforms into censoring users by removing COVID-19 content. The majority ruled that because Face…

... What? Apologies if I'm missing the sarcasm, but Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, Reddit, Pinterest and even LinkedIn all suppressed certain stories, keywords, etc. For Twitter and Google at least we have documents proving Biden admin requests. I think there's a whole lot more, but the point stands regardless. > unless he is lying, he wasn't forced to do this "We could make things real hard for you for four years. We…

> The choice is yours.

Correct, the choice was theirs. They probably didn't want to keep spreading ivermectin conspiracy theories, it's bad for advertisers.

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Ppl's obsessions (on both sides) on taxes is so weird. Governments can fund themselves in numerous ways, not just taxes. Either way you'll pay. The key issue is do we want a federal government expenditure of 20-25% of the economy? I'd say no.

This is such a stupid argument. Is your issue that the number is too high? Why? What’s the right number? Should government spend 25% percent of GDP? Who cares. Governments shouldn’t aim for a specific number, they should spend enough to make sure full employment is achieved, according to saving desires and the private market’s appetite for investment. Whatever the private market isn’t willing to invest, the governmen…

The government only gets money by skimming off the top of private enterprise. If the percentage is too high then there’s nothing left to skim and the system collapses, so yes we should care what the percentage is and we should want it to be as low as possible.

We should be demanding ruthless efficiency from the government, not dreaming up new ways for them to take our stuff.

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