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It is so sad to see that despite being the most educated generation in history, there still seems to be a need for supernatural meaning in young people's lives.
The result of trying to strip ourselves of tradition no doubt. Astrology is a joke.
While I agree, there are so many other traditions that make much more sense than astrology. Meditation, quiet shrines with incense in groves, yoga, taichi etc. And they are not at odds with scientific temperament.
Here is the thing. People abandoned religion not because it is 'irrational' but because of arrogance. Look at the present day - people are far from secular. They believe in all sorts of new age bs, astrology, self improvement narratives, visualisation techniques and the law of attraction. How is this more schientific? It's not, the real difference is that modern day 'spirituality' has the self as god. there isn't a c…
The majority of the world is still religious. It's mostly ex-Christian westerners who have this problem to be honest.
I had an argument with a girl the other day who was adamant she wanted to know my star sign. I said "you tell me" and after 10 guesses I finally told her. She then went on to tell me what I must like etc - most of which was complete bollocks obviously. I told her her beliefs were akin to racism. Just because of when I was born she thought it was acceptable not to bother to treat me as an individual but as automatical…
That doesn't mean astrology is true, just that your question isn't as witty as you might think.
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Because it is impossible to prove such thing. All arguments of this kind rely on some kind of shaky or dubious foundation.
> All arguments of this kind rely on some kind of shaky or dubious foundation. No, they do not. Aristotle's Argument from 'Motion': 1. Some things in the world are changing. (Observation) 2. Whatever is changing is being changed by another.[1] (Lemma 1) 3. There cannot be an infinite regress of instrumental changers.[2] (Lemma 2) 4. Therefore, there must be a changer that is not itself being changed by another. * htt…
Here's another take:
Everything is changing and being changed. There is no "first" because the universe is not linear. And ultimately there is no actual division between "changed" and "changer". There is just "change".
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Not only science itself, but humanity being a grand progression of scientific progress leading to our year 2023.
You’re reading more than he wrote. Science is an abstraction, a model of our world that we use to make prediction. It is true that the model is not the world, but it is also true that we have made unquestionable progress in our models and understanding of the reality we inhabit. We just can predict and explain a lot more than we could a century ago.
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I don't believe in astrology either, but frankly, this sort of zealous hyper-rationality is a great way to die alone. Like someone who's not into astrology will overhear you and the word that will get around will be "Don't invite that guy to parties, he is not fun." You will reap far better dividends from just taking people as they are and trying to find the best in them. Which is the most rational thing to do is it…
Ah yes, the "tolerate astrology or else women won't have sex with you" argument.
After all, science has undeniably caused more harm to the world than the belief in astrology.
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You can "tolerate" aliens? Alien life has a very high chance of existing - according to many scientists, more likely than it not existing. Alien intelligence less so, but still quite likely to exist. I find your take on people who believe in Astrology condescending. I know intelligent and accomplished people who believe in Astrology. The explanation is very simple: they simply didn't think it through and keep checkin…
> find them entertaining I also find them entertaining. That doesn’t mean I believe them. > The explanation is very simple: they simply didn't think it through Something I rely on to predict the future is the kind of thing I would want to think through. That’s particularly hard to believe of “intelligent people” when checking that it’s nonsense takes very little effort. There may be an education-intelligence gap that…
Astrology's biggest role is drawing a map of how people relate to each other, it's not primarily about making claims of the physical world.
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Well, I also do similar kind of judgement. I.e. if someone is seriously religious, flat earth believing or ghost worshiping etc, then I would just assume they... have many things to left learn. But often as I encountered it, some individual is also too cute to be treated rudely. This is a bit of dilemma, really. Because if you share what you've learned, then no matter how respectful you tried to make it look, they mi…
> So, the real question is, if a really cute girl that you like smiling in front of you, and she asks your "star type" (or "constellation"), what would you really do at that spot? That's an oxymoron because stupidity is never cute. If she appeared cute before saying that, she certainly wouldn't after.
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> I automatically assume they are not intelligent, irrational, You sound like a Taurus. Let people enjoy things, the general socio-economic situation is already as shitty as one could imagine, asking people to be rational 100% of the time, with no beliefs, no nothing, is just a sign of socio-economic privilege.
Another failed prediction for the astrology here. Not the it's going to shake your beliefs in it. That's our difference I guess. When I'm wrong it's something I strive to fix, but when you're wrong, what do you do? So believing random wrong things is something you do because you enjoy it? I believe things because I think they might be true, and you believe things because you enjoy believing them ? What an alien (to m…