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I don't care about costly trips. I mean, he has billions and works a lot. Spending a million here and million there is pretty frugal compared to some other people who need to prove their worth by upping each other on who has the largest yacht in the world. What I do care about, though, is hypocrisy.

> I don't care about costly trips. I mean, he has billions and works a lot. Spending a million here and million there is pretty frugal compared to some other people who need to prove their worth by upping each other on who has the largest yacht in the world. > What I do care about, though, is hypocrisy. Turns out, you should care about both. First of all, his private jet costs as much as a yacht, plus he doesn't own…

It's kinda cool that 19 friends and I could take a day trip on Elon Musk's yacht for $350 each.

The last boat I rented charged $200 for a 2 hour session and had a capacity of 12 plus you had to drive it yourself, so his would be a definite step up, but it's pretty modest for a billionaire.

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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Musk is struggling with the "absolutist" part of free speech.

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Musk has now included a tweet seemingly trying to dox the stalker, including their license plate. How can he immediately turn from "people shouldn't post publicly available information that can be abusable" to posting someone's abusable public information?

Because he's a terrible person who doesn't really care for anyone or anything other than himself and his giant pile of gold.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33998145

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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Musk has now included a tweet seemingly trying to dox the stalker, including their license plate. How can he immediately turn from "people shouldn't post publicly available information that can be abusable" to posting someone's abusable public information?

Link to the tweet? I can't find it.

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Yeah, the hypocrisy is what annoys me the most. Not only does it contradict his direct statement about not banning @elonjet, it contradicts his statements about twitter policy being decided by a committee, as well as his numerous other statements about allowing free speech in general. The policy itself I think makes some sense, although it's interpretation is ripe for abuse, just posting any random picture of someone…

Why does it annoy you? If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first. I don't give a shit if I will be labeled as a hypocrite. My family and kids come first no matter what. Wouldn't you do the same? Would you be like oh damn my kid has to die because I can't be a hypocrite?

And you of course don't find promoting coups to overthrow the democratically elected government of you country to be a threat to family and kids, right? That all okay. Cool.

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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

The flight information that twitter account was using is publically available and required by law to BE public. https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zygg/twitter-bans-elon-mus... "Sweeney has been using sites such as ADS-B Exchange to track the movements of private jets blogging to celebrities, tech billionaires, and Russian oligarchs for years now. By law, the movement of these plans is publicly available information.…

So to be clear, this info is already public but a lack of web scraping ability prevents the low end stalkers from stalking without the twitter account.

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Is there a distinction between speech and posting other's PII (Personally Identifiable Information)?

Well there was an issue with other account posting information about school teachers being groomers and pointing people to their names, pictures, etc. That account is still online, well and doing it. As others have pointed out, as long as the people that are affected are not Elon Musk, then it seems like for Elon Musk it is mostly fine.

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"Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info. Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok." https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737

Can't wait for Musk to go against the FAA for requiring this info be publicly announced and not restricted time wise. He also probably won't affect any account(s) that publish this information so long as it doesn't affect him personally. You know, free speech as approved by Musk and all.

This a pretty reductive take. Based on my observations so far,I don't think EM is as unprincipled as this suggests.

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If you own a home, your address may also be publicly available via county records. Does that make it ok to post someone’s home address?

...is perhaps the hundred and fiftieth time I have read this (or a similar variant) nonsense of false analogy, already debunked explained and reexplained in hundreds of variants I am beginning to think that the people who parrot it are not even interested in its response (already said and reiterated hundreds of times in the last 12 hours)

> already debunked explained and reexplained in hundreds of variants

Appeal to authority isnt a convincing argument. But if you're going to do it, you need to at least reference what you're appealing to.

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