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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by girvo » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:40 AM UTC

bsilvereagle wrote: post #600

agumonkey wrote: post #491

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VAIO had an edge a while back. Toshiba still throw some stuff from time to time. Panasonic too but in the survivor category.

Somewhat off topic, what're Vaio users migrating to? I look every year or so to see what the current laptop offerings are, and nothing has convinced me to leave my 5+ year old Vaio.

Dell XPS 13, 2015 model. That's what my family (who have two Vaio's) moved to, at least, and they're very impressed with them. Of course, they were relatively expensive, but hey, you pay for quality regardless of vendor in my experience.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by RaleyField » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:44 AM UTC

komaromy wrote: post #838

suryon wrote: post #411

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Windows security in general is better than Linux security in general.Unless you are running Grsec/PaX but hey i do not believe you do that on desktop. Also you can still run EMET on Windows.

> Windows security in general is better than Linux security in general. Can you elaborate on this or provide some sources?

Theo de Raadt of OpenBSD made a comment in this line recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXS8ljif9b8&t=54

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by girvo » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:45 AM UTC

kibibu wrote: post #867

dpark wrote: post #561

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I think the number pad on a laptop is a massive waste and an anti-feature for 99% of users. Most people don't use it enough to justify the space it takes, and especially the ergonomic awkwardness of having the keyboard perpetually off-center.

Here are some other keys that are a massive waste for 99% of users: * Home * End * Backtick/tilde ` ~ * Backslash/pipe \ | * PrtScn * Break/Pause * Any F key that is not F1 or F5 When's the last time most users typed a backslash? A pipe char? A backtick ?! (If you say "in a command prompt" you are not talking about the mythical 99% of users) Depending on the audience, [delete] is a waste of space too - a lot of peopl…

Sure. A number-pad that nearly no-one uses takes up a lot more space than keys that would leave empty space or necessitate a brand-new keyboard layout if they were removed. Very different.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by thoman23 » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:50 AM UTC

Why on earth is it so hard to find video of the keynote? Here we have a genuinely exciting product announcement with a brilliant "one more thing" hook, and I can't find the video. Microsoft should have it plastered over every news outlet in the world.

I found the video below (with 97 views!?), which makes me really want a Surface Book...and then it cuts off RIGHT BEFORE the big reveal! Microsoft seems to have caught up to Apple in terms of hardware, but it seems they still have a ways to go in marketing and PR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c6ZLdJ1rkA

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by RaleyField » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:55 AM UTC

freehunter wrote: post #595

kuschku wrote: post #528

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Which is as trustworthy as mailing a copy of your HDD to the NSA directly. We, as users, have no way of verifying what BitLocker does, if it has backdoors, etc.

We really need to differentiate between the two types of "security" when we're talking about them. Are you worried about your personal information being stolen? That's security. Are you worrying about being spied on? That's privacy. People generally aren't worried that the NSA will steal their personal information, run up their credit card bill, etc. They're worried that the NSA will see something that could be used…

As someone from EU, if it was only NSA I would be mostly okay, but I can't trust NSA/USG to be competent enough to safeguard the private key controlling possible BitLocker backdoor from the Chinese and other governments running massive industrial espionage campaigns.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by CMay » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:59 AM UTC

nilkn wrote: post #717

When I got my first MacBook back in 2008, it was a revolution for me. The industrial design, the multitouch trackpad that actually worked 100% of the time, the backlit keyboard, the battery life, the trackpad-friendly OS -- these all worked together to make me wonder how other laptop manufacturers had got it so astoundingly wrong. I haven't had that feeling since then. Sure, the MacBook Air came out and it was amazin…

I was never particularly sold on MacBooks, probably because I was used to always building my own machines and the costs of MacBooks never felt like they were justified in any way regardless of pollish.

The Surface Book looks like the first laptop I've ever seen that makes me think it might be worth it and it may be one of the first laptops to ever have an upgradeable internal GPU since the base could be switched out if Microsoft decides to support that.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by spinningthelock » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 4:59 AM UTC

thoman23 wrote: post #894

Why on earth is it so hard to find video of the keynote? Here we have a genuinely exciting product announcement with a brilliant "one more thing" hook, and I can't find the video. Microsoft should have it plastered over every news outlet in the world. I found the video below (with 97 views!?), which makes me really want a Surface Book...and then it cuts off RIGHT BEFORE the big reveal! Microsoft seems to have caught…

Microsoft, always half-baked.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by y_u_no_rust » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 5:04 AM UTC

samstave wrote: post #531

nogridbag wrote: post #503

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Coming from a rMBP 15", I found the SP3 touchpad was too small for me to use comfortably. But it was still usable. Now that they have increased the size of the touchpad and made the keyboard better, I actually have a bit of a dilemma. You can customize the SP4 preorder with an i7 and 16GB of memory for cheaper than the Surface Book i7 with 8GB memory. I'm not sure how necessary the Nvidia card is for my purposes.

I loathe touchpads... I only mouse so I've never had any issue with the SP3s KB

I'm weird and use the bluetooth version of the thinkpad keyboard with a trackpoint.. it's actually pretty nice

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by vxNsr » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 5:12 AM UTC

lhl wrote: post #759

cm2187 wrote: post #651

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I still miss the z series... But the z series had ethernet ports. This surface thing is useless to me.

You can order a new Z here: http://us.vaio.com/ As a pleasant surprise, it still has a built-in RJ45.

At $3000 I expect a dedicated graphics option...

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by vxNsr » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 5:14 AM UTC

MiguelHudnandez wrote: post #755

sixothree wrote: post #624

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Can you use the old dock with the Surface Pro 4?

It is probable. I can't find perfect specifications, but the dimensions of the Pro 3 and Pro 4 are very similar. Lining up the machines visually, as shown in the image linked below, indicates that the dock port is in the same place and is the same size. That's by no means proof but it's not ruled out. The USB and DisplayPort certainly change by comparison. I have ~20 Surface Pro 3's in production so I am very interes…

I've heard rumors that they'll release some sorta spacer that will allow the pro 4 to work with the old docks.