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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by yokoprime »

stasomatic wrote: post #859
alsetmusic wrote: post #161

For Apple nerds that pay close attention to company, this is no surprise. Third-party dev Marco Arment wrote a blog post speaking to Ternus earlier this month[0]. Marco has enough standing within our world that it's actually a clever idea to appeal to Ternus on these terms. He'll probably be aware that it was written and the appeal is somewhat generic in its call to reverse course on some Cook-era policies. We're all…

Marco should concentrate on fixing the UX abomination that Overcast has become instead of writing breathy sophomoric letters. At this point, I’ll vibe code my own podcast player.

If you want to burn tokens making a bespoke podcast player its probably a good learning exercise. I like Overcast, it would be great if i could see the latest episodes on the front page when opening the app, otherwise its fine.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by naravara »

aurareturn wrote: post #556
jinushaun wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hope they fire whoever is in charge of Liquid Glass. Whoever is leading Apple software has run out of ideas. Of all the countless things they could be doing in software, we got the useless Liquid Glass refactor.

That guy left to join Meta I believe.

Thereby raising the average talent level of both companies. A truly Pareto optimal trade.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by giancarlostoro »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #826
oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

Agree, Microsoft needs to be next in my eyes. They have really degraded Windows. I do not know how Bill Gates uses a computer and doesnt lose his colossal shit at how garbage it is on high end Microsoft made devices.

For context, I have been a Microsoft fanboy for years, a .NET Developer for over a decade, my one Windows machine (I also love Linux ;) is a Microsoft made product, with all factory defaults, because Windows in the past has always been very stable for me if I don't go around tweaking things. For some reason however, my Windows copy on an official Microsoft device has been slowed to a crawl for like 3 years now, which is a bit concerning because I had it for a good 2 years before that. None of my Linux devices have this problem, and when I install Linux on any formerly Windows device, it brings new life to the device, and they last way longer than if I had just kept Windows.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by elxr »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #701
alsetmusic wrote: post #161

For Apple nerds that pay close attention to company, this is no surprise. Third-party dev Marco Arment wrote a blog post speaking to Ternus earlier this month[0]. Marco has enough standing within our world that it's actually a clever idea to appeal to Ternus on these terms. He'll probably be aware that it was written and the appeal is somewhat generic in its call to reverse course on some Cook-era policies. We're all…

Why would anyone pay close attention to a company ? It is not a tongue in cheek remark, I am genuinely curious

When your livelihood indirectly depends on their whims (aka the app store rules) or the possibility some new feature or product they announce directly affects the way you build your software, either positively or negatively, why not pay close attention?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by carlosjobim »

makeitdouble wrote: post #413
ericzawo wrote: post #343

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They are leaps and bounds above any other laptop on the market. Who wants a plastic chasis and nub in 2026 over a modern Macbook Air.

They are leaps and bounds ahead for people who want their specific formula or don't really care about computers. Apple has always been a "our way or the highway" brand, we can at least keep in mind that 3 laptop formulas only differenciated by size and thickness won't cut it for everyone on the planet.

A sports motorcycle from 2026 is made for people who don't really care about motorcycles. The engine is super tight, performant, doesn't leak oil, doesn't give you any problems, doesn't need tuning or maintenance outside of regular check-ups. You get on it and go. And it's much safer because of automatic safety systems.

Sports motorcycles used to be for people who care about motorcycles. Breakdowns, unsafe, finicky, tuning the carburetor if you went between mountains and sea level. You didn't just get on it and go. You had to know about motorcycles if you were an owner. And each individual model had their individual quirks.

Which option is better?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by gehsty »

kyrra wrote: post #845
sshrajesh wrote: post #836

Apple stock grew 2322.5% during Tim Cook's tenure from 08/24/2011 to 04/20/2026. CAGR approximately 24.29% per annum. Pretty incredible.

To steal from Twitter: "Tim Cook took Apple from $350B to $4T" So? That's a 11X market cap increase. In the same time, MSFT saw a 14X increase, Google saw a 20X increase, Amazon did 28X, Facebook did 35X. We're not even going to talk about NVidia. Cook led Apple through a period where every tech company expanded. Yay for him? (It keeps going at https://x.com/politicalmath/status/2046428057255211032 )

How many companies on that list make money by manufacturing a physical product and selling it to customers? How many other consumer goods companies 11x their market cap? How many other consumer goods companies have revenues remotely approaching Apple?

The business you mention are pure service / zero marginal cost businesses, and in that time internet usage has expanded both in reach and depth (it is being used for more things in more places), so their opportunity for profits has grown. Apple turns aluminium and silica into a laptop. They didn't even miss a beat during COVID.

Yay for Tim Cook for scaling this to the absolute behemoth of supply chain and manufacturing that modern Apple is.

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Post by gordonhart »

not_that_d wrote: post #801

Asking as a non American. Why would this matter to me? Why should I care about this?

Apple has an enormous global footprint. Their devices are made in China, India, and Vietnam, and source parts from basically everywhere. More than half of Apple's revenue comes from outside the US and there are 1.5 billion iPhones in use across the world (somewhat larger than the population of the US).

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Post by elxr »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #827

I have been wanting this for Apple for a while. They are very “boring” when it comes to risk and pushing forward the way Steve Jobs did. I really think they have a lot of potential they are missing out on. I still hope they eventually sell server blades for macOS.

> They are very “boring” when it comes to risk

The main problems regular people have when it comes to their phones/macs today isn't that they're boring, it's that the software is buggy and inconsistent, and generally just seems a disservice to the otherwise industry leading hardware.

I'd rather they fix that first than cater to the hardware enthusiasts yearning for some breakthrough new-paradigm design.

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

kelseydh wrote: post #613
1970-01-01 wrote: post #478

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Don't forget about the Apple Car. 100% of that failed, and Tim spent a decade on it. Quite a bit of attention on here, but it seems we've quickly forgotten all about it since it was never seen. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=apple+car

Really sucks we never got to see any of the prototypes or designs they built for it.

Absolutely! At the very minimum, an Apple EVSE would have been a shippable product. But no, Tim couldn't even get that after 10 years, thousands of dedicated employees, and hundreds of millions of dollars spent.

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Post by tiffanyh »

ninjahawk1 wrote: post #551

Big shoes to fill. Steve Jobs vouched for Tim Cook to be CEO…then Tim has been the CEO to see Apple become a global billion dollar company. This new CEO has been at apple for like 25 years (I think) so I’m sure he’ll do fine.

I do think Ternus being at Apple for 25-years (2001) is getting lost in the story.

It's also the year the iPod was launched, which capitulated Apple from near bankruptcy a few years before to then having the cash it needed to invest in R&D on things like transitioning to Intel, creation of iPhone, etc.

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