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Post by frm88 »

reissbaker wrote: post #860
za3faran wrote: post #851

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Listen to their ministers and people in charge and they clearly state the intent outright. This latest conflict has exposed everything.

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*There is academic and legal debate as to whether the current war, starting on Oct 7th, 2023, has devolved into a genocide — although that certainly isn't settled, and the international courts haven't yet issued rulings, they've only declined to dismiss the case.*

The ICC issued a warrant against Netanyahu citing "war crimes" and "crimes against humanity" with [0]"starvation as a method of warfare" as a main point. Starvation as a method of warfare is consistent with an act of genocide [1].

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court...

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation_(crime)

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Post by wqaatwt »

immibis wrote: post #833
wqaatwt wrote: post #814

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> Do you condemn Hamas What’s the alternative? Regardless of what Israel did or did not do Hamas could have ended this “war” at any moment they wanted to. None of their actions were in any way remotely in the interest of the people of Gaza. Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

This is proven false by the existence of the West Bank, where is there no Hamas and there's still a war. Who is fighting the war there? In case you're commenting in good faith and genuinely don't know this, "Do you condemn Hamas?" refers to a pattern in media interviews from the earlier days of the holocaust. The interviewer would simply ignore what the interviewee said and repeat "Do you condemn Hamas?" until the in…

There is a lot whole lot of violence in the West Bank, no carpet bombing or tens of thousands of casualties, though. That makes it extremely different.

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Post by wqaatwt »

tehjoker wrote: post #817
wqaatwt wrote: post #814

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> Do you condemn Hamas What’s the alternative? Regardless of what Israel did or did not do Hamas could have ended this “war” at any moment they wanted to. None of their actions were in any way remotely in the interest of the people of Gaza. Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

The alternative is obvious: a single democratic state and the end of ethnosupremacy.

That’s not sustainable. Best outcome would be ending up like Lebanon.

Besides Belgium (and that’s nowhere close) there are hardly any successful democracies that were evenly split primarily on ethno-religious grounds and didn’t entirely collapse on the first opportunity.

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Post by FilosofumRex »

YZF wrote: post #789
KingMob wrote: post #664

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And opposite all that are Tiktok videos by Israeli soldiers, for which questions of journalistic bias are irrelevant.

Bad things happen in wars. And yes there are questionable videos of Israeli soldiers on TikTok. I'm not sure how this supports your view point. It's is entirely possible for Israel to be the good guy, for the BBC to have a strong anti-Israeli bias, and for there to be questionable actions by certain Israeli soldiers (including on TikTok). There are also questionable actions by Ukrainian soldiers and there have been q…

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Post by BrawnyBadger53 »

XorNot wrote: post #438
perihelions wrote: post #77

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America's arrested rather a large number of people in recent weeks—university students, mostly—for expressing viewpoints on the I/P conflict. The current Administration is claiming, and no one's yet stopped them, that First Amendment rights don't apply to non-citizens such as international students. - "You’re not arrested for posting this" For what it's worth, it's widely reported that ICE is trawling social media to…

Yes but that was after the American people voted for an administration which explicitly ran on a platform of "we will do exactly that". The attempted framing is as government oppression by "the elites", but half the country - the regular people - they're all for this.

Median voters voted for Trump because they wanted a regime change after feeling the economic shock of covid. This is the trend across basically every democratic country. Polls on the issue itself show that this split is not 50/50 though the actual number escapes me.

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Post by [deleted] »

BrawnyBadger53 wrote: post #885
XorNot wrote: post #438

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Yes but that was after the American people voted for an administration which explicitly ran on a platform of "we will do exactly that". The attempted framing is as government oppression by "the elites", but half the country - the regular people - they're all for this.

Median voters voted for Trump because they wanted a regime change after feeling the economic shock of covid. This is the trend across basically every democratic country. Polls on the issue itself show that this split is not 50/50 though the actual number escapes me.

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Post by gryzzly »

tdeck wrote: post #875
gryzzly wrote: post #705

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do you feel like it is “Israel’s war on Gaza”? Does that represent reality fully? Is that what children should be taught, that there is a demonic people that kills children? You don’t see any problem with omitting the massacre of israeli civilians, the captured hostages and many thousands of rocket launches towards densely populated civilian communities? is that how we achieve peace in your view?

> Do you feel like it is “Israel’s war on Gaza”? Does that represent reality fully? No, I didn't write the text on that website. I'd describe it as Israel's genocide in Gaza.

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Post by Braxton1980 »

Retric wrote: post #859
Braxton1980 wrote: post #858

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Are both sides doing all these things in equal amounts?

No, they don’t have the same strengths but the net effect is similar.

How can the net effect be similar if the actions aren't?

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Post by Braxton1980 »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #534
Braxton1980 wrote: post #457

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>Another difference would be that you are allowed to express your opinion, whereas in russia you would be put to jail, that's true but only in a very limited way. Although not even close in number and punishment the US government is deporting people for speaking against Israel. I think we do have a much better system because we are aware of these cases, you can speak out about the issue, and our court system can rule…

If you are talking about Khalil, he didn't just speak against Israel, it seems like his role in an org which openly supported Hamas may have played a part but didn't matter legally. The legal issue was that he left out facts on his green card application. I am 100% sure that support of terrorist orgs can invalidate your green card. https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-claims-palest... > According to recent…

>We should wait for all the facts to come out.

Oh? Before they deport him? If the courts didn't intervene, initiated from his side, he would be gone

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Post by Braxton1980 »

wqaatwt wrote: post #814
immibis wrote: post #779

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> Do you condemn Hamas What’s the alternative? Regardless of what Israel did or did not do Hamas could have ended this “war” at any moment they wanted to. None of their actions were in any way remotely in the interest of the people of Gaza. Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

>Providing them [Hamas] material or other support only prolonged it..

How?

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