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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by fsckboy »

killjoywashere wrote: post #679
fsckboy wrote: post #648

when they came for the CCP, I didn't say anything because I was not in the CCP. then they came for antifa, BLM®, BDS, and... oh, no they didn't, I guess deplatforming is still safe on campus

Here’s a thought: the CCP is trying to provoke a response. A measured response that puts the onus of discipline on the governance system reinforces the rule of law. A knee-jerk dismissal of students is, I believe, what you are looking for, but that would be the offensive response that the CCP wants.

I'm not looking for a particular response. I'm noticing that everybody here is up in arms about speech suppression on a campus in this case, so I pointed out other cases of speech suppression on campuses that don't elicit attention.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by gumby »

coliveira wrote: post #853
gumby wrote: post #775

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This has been the policy of the USA for decades (e.g. pentagon script approval, military subsidies for professional sports (in exchange for an antitrust exemption) etc. Is this really any different? This comment is not intended to praise or support the CCP, but just to provide some context. I think the US government should be staying out of content as well.

You're right, from the point of view of Americans it is OK to influence every aspect of life in other countries, but if the reverse occurs it is the end of the world. Given that China is quickly becoming the richest country of the world, it is just normal they will have more and more influence in American society, just looking from the economic point of view. Consider for example how Japan started having a cultural i…

China is quite far from being the richest country in the world by any measure.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by fabcity »

reaperducer wrote: post #849
bllguo wrote: post #721

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this is exactly the white savior crap that much of the world hates from the US. the sheer arrogance to think that even a significant fraction of Taiwanese would be interested in moving to America, let alone the entire populace. And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think? I don't understand how you think this rhetoric helps anyone. I guess it lets Americans puff out t…

this is exactly the white savior crap that much of the world hates from the US How do you have information that he's white, or even American? I couldn't see anything like that in his profile. I read it as the voice of someone in Taiwan asking for help. And then the gall to suggest _Ohio, the Mojave, and Alaska_. Bit on the nose, don't you think? I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Can you elaborate for the…

Agreed…i didn’t see any sort of racism in the comment. I read his location choices as having more to do more with supporting a semiconductor / advanced manufacturing base - sort of an expansion of the TSMC fab being built in AZ.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

rackjack wrote: post #747
ilamont wrote: post #330

In 2019, Frances Hui, a student at Emerson College in Boston, wrote an opinion piece for the student newspaper titled "I am from Hong Kong, not China” (1) and she was subjected to doxxing and death threats: The most jarring comment came from a Chinese student at Emerson, who made Hui’s personal Facebook posts public. In one post, he wrote a comment that translates to: “Whomever opposes my greatest China, no matter ho…

The Chinese government has seeped its way into nearly every facet of American life. This is most visible in Disney movies (see: the Mulan and Lion King remakes) but it is happening to many companies and universities where they use our own greed against us. I hope America will wake up and realize we have fighting a hidden war, but we are so divided I doubt we'll notice until we've lost, if we notice at all.

McCarthyist paranoia has seeped itself into nearly every facet of American life.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by OJFord »

ddoolin wrote: post #752
rackjack wrote: post #747

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The Chinese government has seeped its way into nearly every facet of American life. This is most visible in Disney movies (see: the Mulan and Lion King remakes) but it is happening to many companies and universities where they use our own greed against us. I hope America will wake up and realize we have fighting a hidden war, but we are so divided I doubt we'll notice until we've lost, if we notice at all.

On the surface, this seems like FUD or at least exaggerated. Anecdotally, Americans across the spectrum are at least weary of China if not openly hostile. China does have a lot of corporate influence at the upper levels and corporations do pull many of the levers of government here, but on an individual level, I don't think it's that's dramatic. Although this topic has been sensationalized a lot, personally I don't t…

> at least weary of China if not openly hostile

Given the latter half, I think that's *wary (cautious) rather than 'weary' (fatigued, fed up)?

I'm not American, but something I've noticed on YouTube is that 'import' is a euphemism for 'Chinese crap' - probably more prevalent because there's more of a US manufacturing base to begin with, but the funny thing is when it's imported from somewhere else that's respected it's a German tool, or Japanese for example, but 'import' seems to mean 'imported from China', heh.

(I'm not claiming I'm above it nor offended by it, just caught my attention because 'import' isn't an adjective to me and the usage amused me. It wouldn't really catch on in the UK I don't think, because so much is 'import' to begin with, whether Chinese or not.)

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Post by anamax »

nneonneo wrote: post #824
fartcannon wrote: post #788

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On an individual level, it would appear that just being from Hong Kong and not China will get you death threats.

I feel compelled to clarify this: Hong Kong is part of China, and has been since 1997. Saying that Hong Kong is not part of China is like saying that Texas is not part of the United States because at one point they seceded. These days, Texas has no more right to secede from the US than Hong Kong from China, even if there are people in both territories who would prefer full independence. Consequently, to a Chinese per…

People say "I'm from Texas, not the US" all the time and no one cares.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by OJFord »

spcebar wrote: post #31

Response from the student: https://old.reddit.com/r/Purdue/comments/ri95tp/in_response_...

I'm confused by the last paragraph, out of my own naïveté, do HKers 'identify' as 'Chinese' then, just not 'from China'?

I suppose it's not surprising when someone's when someone adopts their parents' culture etc. despite being born abroad (e.g. self-describing as Indian without being a citizen/born there) - so makes sense, I just hadn't realised.

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Post by esyir »

merpnderp wrote: post #22

For those geo blocked. The president of Purdue sent out and email in response to learning that Chinese students had been harassing a Chinese student who spoke out about the heroism of the students who died in Tiananmen Square, insisting all students respect free speech. “Those seeking to deny those rights to others, let alone to collude with foreign governments in repressing them, will need to pursue their education…

Probably needs to come with expulsions if I'm to believe this is anything more than signaling.

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Post by BrazzVuvuzela »

high_derivative wrote: post #314
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #300

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> should be only one remedy: imediate expulsion of any agent of repression of the Chinese state There should be the same remedy that is provided to any other bully. These are still kids. There is a learning opportunity. If they refuse to learn, yes, expulsion should be in the cards.

We are not doing adults any favours by infantilising them at university. It's a big part of the problem related to contemporary college culture.

"Treat a man as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a man as he could be, and he will become what he should be." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Post by Turing_Machine »

mcguire wrote: post #869
Turing_Machine wrote: post #832

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Okay, I'll bite. Why is Alaska "insulting"? Note: I live there, and it's awesome. Ohio is also a perfectly fine place to live.

How would you respond to being asked (forced?) to move to Ohio? Or perhaps Germany?

If my alternative were to live under the PRC government?

I'd be grateful.

You?

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