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Do you even understand how insulting it is to deny other people agency? That's the most insulting thing you can do or say, worse than racism, sexism or whatever else, it is plain denying that the other person is a human with their own free will.

do you even understand how ridiculous you sound? some tinfoil hat videos might get deleted and suddenly you’re reverse racism ghandi?

So you take it upon yourself to tell those heathens what they should think?

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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

WHO is the _world health organization_ dude. We're in the midst of a pandemic. You're using a moralistic argument to respond to the form while ignoring the substance.

In the meantime, Trump advocates injecting disinfectant, what argument have you got for him?

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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations#R... > The only reason it doesn't recognize it is because US kicked RoC out of UN by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758 Huh? The Wikipedia article you linked says the US voted " No " on Resolution 2758. I don't see how you can claim the US did the kicking by opposing the resolution that did the kicking. That article also states that before that…

The "No" is a gesture. If US was serious about the "No' where won't even be a Nixon visit or Resolution of any kind. Keep in mind RoC was one of the five founding members of UN.

> The "No" is a gesture. If US was serious about the "No' where won't even be a Nixon visit or Resolution of any kind.

But the question isn't just the recognition of Taiwan/ROC, in isolation by itself. It also includes the recognition of the PRC, the existence of which is a fact on the ground that's difficult to ignore.

Sure the US could have continued to plug its ears and ignore the PRC, but that was untenable and becoming increasingly so. It's pretty clear that the US's preferred option would have been formal recognition of both Taiwan and the PRC, but it doesn't always get what it wants, so it has had to contort its official position and practice deliberate ambiguity, instead.

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How is Germany's handling of the Greek debt crisis at all comparable to forcing a nation to the table with the threat of invasion?

Please, show us the facts where was a threat of invasion against Greece? Instead, there was a Greece threat to seize German property as a compensation for WWII: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31831694

I'm saying there wasn't such a threat. throwqqq's parent comment compared it to gunboat diplomacy though, which is tantamount to a threat of invasion.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

This sort of weird slippery slope argument that banning obviously bad advice somehow leads to youtube becoming a "horrible oppressor" doesn't pass the smell test. By this reasoning, _any_ platform that features _any form of moderation at all_ will devolve into oppression. Is HN at risk of becoming oppressive due to banning flamebait and spam comments?

I think it's obviously bad advice for you to suggest that censorship isn't a slippery slope. Under section 239-C of the Obviously Bad Advice Act, I have dispatched the police to your location. Please be ready to comply when they arrive.

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

WHO is the _world health organization_ dude. We're in the midst of a pandemic. You're using a moralistic argument to respond to the form while ignoring the substance. In the meantime, Trump advocates injecting disinfectant, what argument have you got for him?

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Fake news can't be solved with bans, only through education. Education is a long term investment though and everyone wants immediate fixes. Expect more of this nonsensical short term thinking.

I think you are going to find education's lesson plan is much more restrictive than removing false information.

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To be honest 20 years ago when SARS is with us, it is fine to have a neutral scientific medical ... Now we cannot trust that. It has given advice which we know as Her not right. We just ignore it. And hence if anyone use WHO as standard, can they just shut off say Taiwan from YouTube etc. I am not talking about the politics. It is the bias built-in WHO. I am not starting China. Good day.

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The "only" is a typo.

> "There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there's some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly," WHO executive director of health emergencies Mike Ryan said Monday. - https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/... WHO has been saying "uninfected" people shoul…

Thanks for explaining, I didn't know that. That advice is certainly bad. I agree with your take.

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

This sort of weird slippery slope argument that banning obviously bad advice somehow leads to youtube becoming a "horrible oppressor" doesn't pass the smell test. By this reasoning, _any_ platform that features _any form of moderation at all_ will devolve into oppression. Is HN at risk of becoming oppressive due to banning flamebait and spam comments?

One of the youtube series I watch normally features pork ribs. Like, the shrinkwrapped package you get from the grocery store. Well that video the creator couldn't get pork ribs because of coronavirus and so had used beef ribs instead - and couldn't even plainly say the reason why. Instead he had to hold up a bottle of corona beer and say "Well, it's due to beer, if you get my drift."

Is Youtube actually in the right here? The guy just wanted to say he couldn't find pork ribs. He wasn't telling anyone to inject bleach or chug quinine.

That isn't just clamping down on the conspiracy nutters. This has repeatedly become an issue in multiple videos from videogame commentary to cooking shows I watch. Youtube and other large corporates often see themselves as leading the dumb cattle that is the general population and frankly it's outright insulting and their handling of this situation is abysmal.

But also it's going to get worse. The more Youtube can get away with these things, the more they'll do them. Don't be surprised when this extends even more to protected political speech (Israel BDS, free HK, Taiwanese independence, etc) because it's happened before and it will happen again.

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