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Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by Levitz »

solid_fuel wrote: post #508
Brendinooo wrote: post #20

That statement pretty clearly shows that they have certain ideological concerns that they value more highly than the kind of stuff we tend to think the EFF primarily cares about (digital privacy, open source, patent trolling, etc). Through that lens, I guess it makes sense that they see TikTok, Instagram, and BlueSky as worth their time and presence but not X.

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If this is their rationale they should say so, so they can fade into obscurity as soon as possible and leave room for sensible people.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by ngc248 »

nradov wrote: post #853
spopejoy wrote: post #782

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story behind the numbers they present clearly demonstrates that X is censoring/shadowbanning them. Going from 600MM to 13MM impressions/yr -- losing 98% of their impressions! -- is no accident but clearly Musk's thumb on the scale. Imagine what this means if you are trying to gauge impact of a post. Remember, X is giving them zero information about who they're preventing from seeing it. Impressions is the main da…

Is censorship the only possible explanation for the drop in impressions? Presumably the vast majority of impressions before were from bots.

What does it take to characterize legit users also as bots

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by Levitz »

paulbjensen wrote: post #420
paulbjensen wrote: post #333

There does seem to be evidence that X (formerly Twitter) is a dying platform, but what surprised me here is that longtime platforms like Snapchat, Reddit and even Pinterest get more MAUs than X - and this is more October 2025: https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-net... It would be really interesting to learn if brands and advertisers are seeing the same thing?

Why is this downvoted? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because the data it presents is not believable

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by globular-toast »

squigz wrote: post #815
smoovb wrote: post #344

>The math hasn’t worked out for a while now. Have the costs to post to X grown too high? The salary of someone with the technical know-how to work the social media platform is too expensive? How does the math compare with Mastodon? Do you know about buffer.com? I started giving to EFF about 10 years ago. It's pretty much the first and only organization I have regularly given to. It always felt like a non-political or…

Since when was the EFF "non-political"?

I believe "non-political" to Americans means not participating in the blue/red thing.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by mannicken »

I got my account banned on Tweeter for literally doing nothing. I mainly had it because Twitter requires you to have an account in order to read tweets and occasionally I needed to read a tweet there. A few weeks ago my account got suspended. Oh well.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by boznz »

minimaxir wrote: post #18
mrits wrote: post #8

"The math hasn’t worked out for a while now." How lazy do you have to be to not like this math. They act like tweeting is some sort of significant effort.

Tweeting is easy. Managing the weirdos that respond to your tweets is hard.

I think they have it set so that only followers can respond. Prevents most of the horrible stuff, but also downgrades you on the X algorithm. At least there are no weirdo's on the other social media platforms :-)

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by riffraff »

takoid wrote: post #312
supern0va wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>X, for better or worse, gets you eyes, more so than any other alternative social media. But that is actually what they called out: they're not getting eyes anymore. Views at X have cratered so hard that it's barely worth the time.

But it's worth their time to stay on platforms like Bluesky and Mastodon? Something isn't adding up.

Bluesky and mastodon are the direction the EFF would like the internet to take, so their presence there is not tied to effectiveness in the same way.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by riffraff »

mannicken wrote: post #875

I got my account banned on Tweeter for literally doing nothing. I mainly had it because Twitter requires you to have an account in order to read tweets and occasionally I needed to read a tweet there. A few weeks ago my account got suspended. Oh well.

Xcancel.com still works ok to read occasional tweets.

Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by [deleted] »

spopejoy wrote: post #782
helaoban wrote: post #259

>Our presence on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok is not an endorsement [...] We stay because the people on those platforms deserve access to information, too. We stay because some of our most-read posts are the ones criticizing the very platform we're posting on. We stay because the fewer steps between you and the resources you need to protect yourself, the better. Does this not apply to X users?

The story behind the numbers they present clearly demonstrates that X is censoring/shadowbanning them. Going from 600MM to 13MM impressions/yr -- losing 98% of their impressions! -- is no accident but clearly Musk's thumb on the scale. Imagine what this means if you are trying to gauge impact of a post. Remember, X is giving them zero information about who they're preventing from seeing it. Impressions is the main da…

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Re: EFF is leaving X

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Post by vaylian »

mannicken wrote: post #875

I got my account banned on Tweeter for literally doing nothing. I mainly had it because Twitter requires you to have an account in order to read tweets and occasionally I needed to read a tweet there. A few weeks ago my account got suspended. Oh well.

Maybe twitter thought that your account was used as a proxy for nitter? I think it's really annoying that you need to be logged in to see most posts.
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