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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by highwaylights »

jxdxbx wrote: post #450
echelon wrote: post #334

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Not everything is in the position or can afford to transitionally tax the whole of the internet itself like big tech. You're paying for Apple Invites whether you realize it or not. There's immense value in making their platform more sticky. In a few years you'll read articles about uncool Android kids not getting invited to parties. And that's your answer. One of these behaviors is way more insidious.

I mean, you can invite anyone. it’s not limited to apple device invitees.

Yeah, but like, with the crappiest possible version of this service that is a massive downgrade for them from something like partiful.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

basisword wrote: post #793
crmd wrote: post #384

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Unfortunately it happens all the time in my friends circle, and it's for technical not anti-social reasons. Group texts that include Android users are so buggy that they tend to die out, whereas iMessage-only groups tend to be long lasting. For this reason we use WhatsApp for the core group chat, but there's still a ton of side-conversations and meme-ing in iMessage groups.

>> For this reason we use WhatsApp for the core group chat, but there's still a ton of side-conversations and meme-ing in iMessage groups. I don't understand why you would use two chat systems when you know one is excluding some friends? Why not just centralise on WhatsApp which you're already using? Serious question. I can understand why switching is a big ask but when you're already using the multi-platform option…

Because the majority of my communication is already in iMessage and I don't want to bother with another app. I also by default opt out of any Zuckerberg operations that I can, they get enough of my data without me having an account on any of their platforms as is.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

highwaylights wrote: post #868
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #380

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> You're paying for Apple Invites whether you realize it or not. There's immense value in making their platform more sticky. I'm not stuck to Apple's platform, I'm quite happy here. Apple services aren't drenched in ads end to end. Apple's services aren't constantly asking for nickels and dimes; it's one charge, every month, for a buffet of services that are regularly added to and actually improved , making them dist…

You're totally missing the point of parent. The cost is in how insidiously this behavior ostracizes Android owners over time, just like they've done for years with blue/green bubbles. I'm an Apple user, and it serves me well, but it absolutely uses really sinister dark patterns to separate me from contacts in the Android world.

I have never gotten the blue green ostacization. It's a color. It denotes whether you're using iMessage or SMS (now the new standard, RCS I think).

Like I've heard of teenagers giving each other shit for it, I have never ever once in my life, myself or any person I've worked or been friends with, gives it a second thought. And if I actually heard someone attempting to make this into a thing I would judge them incredibly harshly.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by EA-3167 »

fsflover wrote: post #799
EA-3167 wrote: post #366

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So, what's stopping you from becoming Apple's competition? If a significant number of people crave your idea of FOSS and you have ideas to make a superior product, I'm sure the market will reward you.

Did you ever see any Linux laptop in a store? They do have some market share but never existed to the ordinary people. Also, GNU/Linux phones exist (Librem 5 is my daily driver). However without Apple's budgets, you can't create the same smooth experience. You just can't compete with the duopoly.

So what you're saying is that alternatives do exist, but they aren't popular... that doesn't sound like a "duopoly" exists, it just sounds like Android and Apple cover the needs of the vast majority of people. I'm sure it's difficult to be part of a niche, but that doesn't mean that there's some conspiracy against you.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by spunker540 »

pkamb wrote: post #379
dboreham wrote: post #364

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Quick note that I'm in the US and my experience is: most random people use SMS; closer friends and family some use Signal, some Discord, some email; colleagues use Slack; overseas taxi drivers etc. use WhatsApp.

By "use SMS" you surely mean "use iMessage" much of the time.

If op is on android they wont know who uses imessage

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by butlike »

afavour wrote: post #375
echelon wrote: post #327

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Luma and Partiful are really good. This Apple thing is going to turn into a "green text" social signalling thing all over again. If you have an Android, you won't be invited. More scummy Apple social engineering bullshit. Kids that already hate on those having Android colored text bubbles are going to bully each other even more. And of course kids need the latest iPhone, too. Apple is playing into this brilliantly an…

Non-Apple users are able to reply to invites so no one is going to miss any parties.

Well, it says "No HomerS" We're allowed to have one.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by ofisboy »

You don’t need an iphone or an app for this.

Shameless plug: I co-own https://gigb.ee , which allows you to create free or paid events, invite people to the event via link, let them get/buy tickets, join waiting list, and you can track your attendee list, check-in and more.

Events can be public (also shown on our landing page) or private (only shown on your own Gigbee page).

For free events, it’s free. For paid events, you only pay per sold ticket (no monthly or upfront fee etc).

Works on any device since it’s a webapp.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by zie »

chrismarlow9 wrote: post #542
zie wrote: post #500

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Why would Google say yes?

To have easy compatibility with other devices. Why wouldn't they say yes?

That's not something they care about, as if they did, they would have already opened it.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by ben7799 »

pkamb wrote: post #377
Zak wrote: post #341

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That's only true if everyone in the group has an Apple phone, which has decreasing probability with every additional member. Excluding people from a conversation because they don't have the right brand of phone would be pretty antisocial.

In the USA, someone insisting on using an Android when everyone else in their social circle has an iPhone (and they do!) is what's seen as anti-social. No one wants to use the degraded green bubble SMS experience so they simply exclude the Android user and continue using blue bubble iMessage.

This is not really true since RCS launched. It does most of what people care about. Everyone sees Emojis and a few other special Fx and videos and pictures now look good for everyone and don't get nerfed as soon as one user is on Android.

Maybe RCS doesn't do all the esoteric iMessage stuff but it doesn't necessarily have to, half those extra features are gatekeeped on having the latest iPhone or whatever and so they don't get used as often.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by aidenn0 »

ryandrake wrote: post #486
mjamesaustin wrote: post #338

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Currently Partiful doesn't generate revenue, which is evidence for its quality. As soon as the purse strings get attached, it'll be time to get out. But for now, it's an excellent service.

This tracks so well as an indicator, with many other products. As soon as the company starts making money, their product is going to become awful and it's time to find an alternative. Why can't tech escape this cycle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
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