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Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Post by amrocha »

kcb wrote: post #576
andy_ppp wrote: post #363

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1. Capital gains tax is already essentially optional for the richest now with various tricks. Of course taxing people is difficult, are you saying because it’s hard let’s not bother? 2. Where will the capital go (all the best investments are in the US), if this happens lots of great businesses will be available to buy at a discount to people with smaller than $100m stock portfolios 3. Potentially true but I would sti…

> 3. Potentially true but I would still set up my business in the US and just pay the tax, if I make $100m it’s $20m for the government and I rate that as a great deal to be honest. You've described the wrong type of tax. I make $100m and 20% goes to the government is not controversial. It's my business is valued at $100m and so I pay $20m to the government regardless of how much my company is "making". > 4. Why is a…

If you have 100M in unrealized capital gains it should be no big deal to sell some of those gains to cover the tax. Just convert the shares to non voting shares if you want to keep control.

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Post by LunaSea »

hintymad wrote: post #513
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This is the proof that the religion of “I believe in science” is not a friend to creating a culture of science appreciation It’s been the struggle for scientific progress, the breakthroughs are the exception not the rule and the reason is the culture of belief around the science of the time The lesson I’ve most learned from science is that the questions are more interesting than the answer and the answers we have are…

I find "I believe in science" as delivered on social platforms and the mainstream media hysterical in the past few years. I mean, how do we even know if "science" is right without questioning? I can understand that people believe that they are on the right side of the history during the Covid era, for lockdowns, for the efficacy of the vaccines (For those who get angry, I took vaccines by the way, so it's not about m…

Questioning science is and should be encouraged when it comes from other scientists seeking in specialized publications and conferences.

The public at large however is not informed enough to have a legitimate opinion.

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Post by LunaSea »

logicchains wrote: post #840
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> better get it right 100% of the time It turns out they were mostly right (at least the decisions were the best possible with the knowledge of the time). Vaccines were effective against infection at the time and became less so with new variants (still a very good idea to reduce illness severity and likelyhood of hospitalization), lockdowns had some side effects but all in all saved lives before we got the vaccine, a…

>lockdowns had some side effects but all in all saved lives before we got the vaccine This just how effective the censorship was; the actual peer-reviewed science shows that lockdowns did not in fact save lives: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/hec.4737?ut...

Based on an "all cause mortality rate", so not COVID.

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Post by lucianbr »

brezelgoring wrote: post #699
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I'd rather expect a HDMI cables that will display ads if you don't pay a subscription will come first. Pretty sure we had a thread on this not so long ago.

I’m waiting on Panasonic (Panasonic, was it?) to act on their trademark to have interactive ads on their TVs. You have to yell a product name or marketing keyword (McDonalds! PlayStation!) out loud if you want the ad to stop. It stays if you can’t or don’t yell :)

They saw the "drink verification can" thing and thought it's actually a good idea? I guess the torment nexus is next.

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Post by roshankhan28 »

i mean look at instagram itself, they have vastly deviated from the original idea of being a photo sharing app to a platform that is reel sharing app. also it will pull you in into doom scrolling if you dont have the ability to limit yourself.

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Post by kshri24 »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #850
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Her campaign supports Biden's 2025 tax proposals which includes tax on unrealized capital gains.

If you want to feel victimized (?) by a hypothetical tax on people with >$100M unrealized gains go for it I guess.

What is there to feel victimized? This is a policy proposal and it is ridiculous. That's about it.

> hypothetical tax on people

It is literally part of Biden's tax proposal and is endorsed by Kamala's campaign. None of us are making this up.

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Post by wtcactus »

sangnoir wrote: post #277
AlbertCory wrote: post #248

If you want to see what's been "moderated" away from you on Hacker News: Click your username at the upper right: Turn on "showdead": showdead: yes. (defaults to "no") There are a number of dead posts in this thread. I'd post some here (some of which don't appear to violate any HN guidelines, I'll note), but probably those same moderators would kill this one, too.

HN allows everyone with sufficient karma to vouch for dead comments (or flag comments), I suspect most of the comment-level moderation you see is crowdsourced to fellow commenters; a still-dead comment means most of those who see choose to keep it dead. HN is awesome because of the rules and moderation (including bans); any unmoderated forum devolves into a cesspit; and it only takes a surprisingly few bad apples to…

I think this is a very complex subject and no one, in good faith, can claim that heavy moderation is either awesome or terrible.

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Post by Malidir »

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Neither, he is getting onto the bandwagon that he (and his well paid pr team) know is populist. He is a billionaire who is hated, and now has changed his image entirely. Following in Elon's path. People tend not to change their colours at a later age, and he is a cutthroat business guy. Lots of ongoing commentary over the years that he really wants to be President. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/will-mark-zu…

Elon's path may not be the best path to popularity. If Zuck wants popularity, maybe a good way to go about that would be to de-shittify Facebook, Instagram, and so forth so that those platforms respect their users.

But then the income would drop and his yacht may be found capsized!!

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Post by Timber-6539 »

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Moderation exists as a form of farce to free speech.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ free speech is free speech even when you don't like the way it's used. Your right to say what you want doesn't supersede my right not to grant you a platform or even give you the time of day. Even Ben Franklin "moderated" the content of his newspaper. He didn't feel that free speech obligated him to print anything he was given. So this isn't a radical new concept. Freedom of speech and freedom from speech a…

You are conflating editorial rights with some form of free speech.

Free speech doesn't require a platform to work nor any intermediary. It is a boundless idea.

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