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Claude Fable 5
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Re: Claude Fable 5
#862Trying to implement a GPU driver, but the Unigine Superposition benchmark crashes. It tried to debug it and ... > Fable 5's safety measures flagged this message for cybersecurity or biology topics. They may flag safe, normal content as well. These measures let us bring you Mythos-level capability in other areas sooner, and we're working to refine them. Switched to Opus 4.8. Send feedback with /feedback or learn more:…
After recently figuring out how to get CUDA running on Fedora I'm inclined to agree.
Seriously, GPUs are a mess and keeping LLMs from helping us use them properly is practically a crime.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#863I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…
if it’s of interest I’ve been working on https://github.com/HubSpot/boomslang
Which has a full build of python to WASM with a bunch of static libs built in already.
I will say I built this pre fable and actually the first build of the interpreter to WASM opus pretty much nailed, cpython has secondary support for WASM as a target since like 3.9 or something and it just pulled from that.
I’ve been meaning to write up a blog post about this sometime, building this has been pretty interesting, including using opus to run a full auto research like loop for days to hyper optimize it’s performance.
I’m hoping to use fable to power some even crazier WASM adventures tho.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#864I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
I think you are broadly correct, but just to pushback on a few points: (1) Ability to solve hard problems in days vs weeks as immense value (2) Back-end improvements (if done right), should improve platform speed, stability, scalability etc. which should have revenue implication (3) Ability to on-board a SWE equivalent entity in minutes, have them work on a specific hard problem and then off-board them in minutes can…
The thing about AI-generated “solutions” is that they often go down bad rabbit holes and need to be re-run, or since they are so “cheap” to create they are often just thrown away and rebuilt when requirements evolve. Plus, just more stuff is created and needs to be maintained. So in the end, your efficiency gains go out the window.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#865I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
I don't live in USA. I'm getting paid around $2500/month and that's good salary for developers here, plenty of folks are getting below that number. So this pricing is just completely outside of our economics and nobody I know would pay that, no company will justify spending $20k/month when they can hire 10 more developers instead. It is very interesting unfolding of events. Can't wrap my head around it completely.
I'll add a concrete example from a not-too-cheap-anymore EU country: Estonia.
* Average software dev salary in Q12026: 4945€ / month [1]
* Total cost for the employer: 6616.41€ [2]
For $20k/month, you'd get 2 x full time mid-level developers + 1x junior dev or QA.
So the calculation becomes: which option can produce better results for your specific use-case, "you + Fable" or "you + 2x mid-level developers + 1x QA". (and from personal experience, mid-level in Estonia = senior dev in the US, in terms of skillset and experience.. but YMMV)
(Of course that's simplified. Your full time devs need _some_ level of AI subscription as well + hardware so add a couple of hundred to their salary per month etc so you might only be able to afford 2x mid level devs, instead of 2.5)
Re: Claude Fable 5
#866I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…
> It's possible Opus or GPT-5.5 could have done this too, I've not tried the exact same sequence. The Fable vibes are good here, though. And that's the thing. These comparisons are all gut feelings. I'm missing objective unbiased measurements to actually have real comparisons between different models, their different generations, or even just the convention that everybody adds "you are an expert software engineer" an…
Yeah, if the jump is big, then we should be able to see the qualitative improvements, or see where Opus was tripped up in a task and Fable did succeed
Re: Claude Fable 5
#867IMO we are reaching the point where AI models are simply a commodity. Opus (since ~4.6) is sufficient for everything I tried coding wise. I use it to write features (but I review and understand every line it spits out) and to review code. For code review I also still review everything myself, but use Opus to catch stuff I missed and to judge if a PR is even ready for me to review. After just updating Claude Code to t…
I was happy enough with 4.5
Re: Claude Fable 5
#868I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…
> It's possible Opus or GPT-5.5 could have done this too, I've not tried the exact same sequence. The Fable vibes are good here, though. And that's the thing. These comparisons are all gut feelings. I'm missing objective unbiased measurements to actually have real comparisons between different models, their different generations, or even just the convention that everybody adds "you are an expert software engineer" an…
Lots of things in life are gut feelings. It would be really great if we could determine quantitatively forever whether Rust is a superior programming language to Go, but real life resists those kinds of measurements.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#869My job these days is listening to Opus 4.8 (max effort) and Codex 5.5 (max effort) talk back and forth, particularly to generate/review/revise plan files.
Fable 5 has been a major improvement in high-level reasoning, like taking a plan file that has been optimized to the point where neither Opus nor Codex can find anything to change about it (neither in direction nor impl-detail), and Fable 5 will find high-level directional simplifications and pivots, or it will consider the best pivots itself and explain why it rejected them in favor of the plan's direction.
It's so expensive though. A single review of a plan file with Fable 5 (xhigh effort) will use 2-3% of my hourly limit on a $200/mo plan.
I think my new workflow is to generate the initial plan with Opus 4.8 (max effort), get Fable 5 (xhigh) to review it for directional feedback, then start the OpusCodex revision loop from there.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#870All this talk of frontier models and replacing developers leaves me wondering how energy efficient this all is compared to just using human labor. The costs of R&D has to be calculated into the equation, especially considering global warming. I get a sense we are cooking the planet doing this.
Anyone smart enough here to make the comparison?