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US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by nielsbot »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #797
Angostura wrote: post #775

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/14/us/politics/vance-far-rig...

I’ve read the article and I do not see any evidence to the original claim. Where did Vance say that he supports racist ideologies? Being anti-immigration is not racist.

> Being anti-immigration is not racist

it de facto is even if you claim otherwise or hide behind "but economics"

we do not need to give anyone in this administration benefit of doubt.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by xdennis »

duckerduck wrote: post #630

Maybe the EU can open a book portal for the US. https://pen.org/report/the-normalization-of-book-banning/

The banned books are things like "All Boys Aren't Blue", a book which describes incestuous child rape and provides step by step instructions for anal sex.

If you think that book belongs in public schools the FBI should have a look at your computer.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by drnick1 »

antonyh wrote: post #647
josefrichter wrote: post #347

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I’m in the EU and haven’t encountered any of these, except the copyright restrictions - which is really a different matter.

I'm in the UK and can't access https://imgur.com/ - an American service that now refuses to serve content to Britain because "On September 30, 2025, Imgur blocked users from the United Kingdom in response to a potential fine from the Information Commissioner's Office regarding its handling of children's personal data". I presume that means OSA. It does lend credibility to the blocks when it's US companies trying to d…

Why would Imgur cave in and pay the fine when it's easier to block UK users? This is political battle for you to fight or sooner than later all you will be able to access is BBC state propaganda.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by weregiraffe »

ben_w wrote: post #784
weregiraffe wrote: post #689

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This definition is so broad it basically encompasses all communication.

All communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, yes. There's also debate and ego-less teaching for the sake of truth-seeking.

Well, since nobody is ego-less, no truth is universally accepted, and debate is a means to pursue an agenda, what are we left with?

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by weregiraffe »

ben_w wrote: post #856
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #815

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For the sake of truth seeking you will selectively teach information that your ego deems true.

Some are as you say. My ego prefers to be the kind of person who ends up at truth over being one who has fooled themselves into thinking they have already found it, which makes changing my mind easier than others find it. I am pleased to say, others have also remarked that I am closer to this ideal than others they know.

>My ego prefers to be the kind of person who ends up at truth over being one who has fooled themselves into thinking they have already found it, which makes changing my mind easier than others find it.

Yeah, that's what everyone says.

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Post by vharuck »

gpt5 wrote: post #270
tchalla wrote: post #208

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> Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media. Germany restricts insulting individuals / your neighbour, police officer, a pastor or a minister. There’s no special law for politicians. Political criticism is protected under the Basic Law (constitution). Go ahead and be crucial about a politician’s actions but don’t insult their person’s honour or use a sl…

Free speech in America is specifically about protecting you against the government. Your neighbor is still not allowed to defame you.

>Your neighbor is still not allowed to defame you.

Anyone can defame anyone else on the US. The only time the libel or slander laws apply is when the defamed person can prove real harm in court. Not harm to dignity, but monetary loss, personal loss, or physical injury. These are very high bars to clear.

If people could sue and win just for proving willful or negligent defamation of character, a lot of extremist influencers would be in the poor house.

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Post by dmm »

ben_w wrote: post #694
Argonaut998 wrote: post #583

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It’s bad now and not perfect for sure, but I doubt these instances would be upheld by the higher courts.

Kinda irrelevant, given that the go-to examples I see on Hacker News of this happening in the EU and UK are either actual death/violence threats etc. (which are also not protected speech in the USA) or also not upheld in higher European courts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

Incitement is only illegal when "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action".

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Post by exe34 »

account42 wrote: post #707
exe34 wrote: post #405

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Will it work when the US government is the one cracking down, banning interviews, etc?

That is a problem with no other country caring as much about free speech, not with the US having an anti-censorship program.

We have free speech here in the UK. We can record police doing their job and publish it without getting shot in the head. For now.

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Post by MiiMe19 »

mortarion wrote: post #652
MiiMe19 wrote: post #503

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Legally, he does not. The poster publishes them onto their own page.

In the EU the platform becomes responsible for posted content, the moment someone notifies them that they are hosting something illegal. They have plausible deniability until notified, after which they have a certain time to act, and if they don't they are criminally liable. The user posting the content is also liable, from the moment they made the post.

Are lewd drawings illegal? To my knowledge unless they are real photographs then it is legally fine, if disgusting.
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