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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by 0xy »

codethief wrote: post #193
0xy wrote: post #162

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Thousands of people in the UK have been arrested for social media posts, some for speech recognized as protected by international organizations. Germany is currently actively campaigning to force everyone to use their real names on all social media and force ID checks to do so, a clear chilling effect for free speech. Macron has been railing against free speech specifically in recent months, calling it "bullshit". Eu…

> Germany is currently actively campaigning to force everyone to use their real names on all social media and force ID checks to do so, a clear chilling effect for free speech. Source? (Other than one derailed politician, which unfortunately we get to call our chancellor, having a moment? He's still not "Germany", though, not even "the German government".) > Macron has been railing against free speech specifically in…

Huh? You're saying the German Chancellor does not represent the German government? [1] Large swathes of the CDU support it as well.

Macron was responding to criticism of the Digital Services Act, which contains censorship provisions for 'hate speech', which is repeatedly and routinely used by European nations to crack down on protected political speech. For example, it has been used as an excuse to censor political views leaning anti-immigration.

The UK in particular has used Ofcom as a weapon to target American companies that enable free speech communications, notably 4chan.

[1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/germanys-merz-calls-real...

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by NewJazz »

MiiMe19 wrote: post #135
NewJazz wrote: post #125

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Elon let a bunch of people generate lewd photographs depicting minors, then published it.

And the pencil companies let people draw lewd drawings depicting minors. The typewriter manufacturers let a bunch of people write lewd stories depicting minors.

They don't publish that on their websites, though.

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Post by peyton »

carlm42 wrote: post #136
MiiMe19 wrote: post #114

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I don't know where you live but I've been able to express myself without any form of approval. Granted, I tend to not encourage genocide or glorify fascist regimes, but that's just me.

FYI freedom of speech in the US sense is not so much about self-expression as much as it is to prevent e.g. the King decreeing a law that “nobody can say the word ‘Parliament’”. Or for a modern example, “discussing what to do about xyz group is ‘hate speech’.”

Anybody can run their mouths. Discussing ideas with others is what’s protected.

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Post by sega_sai »

I guess it will allow to access information unless it is about abortion or it is negative about DJT.

It is really a joke to pretend that current US cares about freedom of internet access, given all the attacks on free press it things like voice of America radio in the states.

I assume US will also provide a portal to Russian citizen if it is so eager to allow people to bypassing content bans (/s).

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Post by NGRhodes »

suhputt wrote: post #143
Henchman21 wrote: post #131

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Never tapped a port, eh? Edited to not be so flippant: I work in HFT/finance where recording all traffic is required I think by law and definitely for one's own sanity. We're able to maintain nanosecond trades while capturing ALL the traffic. It has zero impact on the traffic. This is normal, widely used tech. Think stuff like Ixia passive taps and/or Arista Metamako FPGA-based tap/mux devices.

the time it takes for light to travel from los angeles to virginia is 12 - 16 ms, round trip is 30ms lets say - that is a noticeable delay, and it could be easily disproven that 80% of traffic is literally routed through VA now.. could they just copy the traffic and send it to VA on a side channel? probably?

i used to work, 15 years ago, on a (permissive, not covert) monitoring service for a UK national public service, the NHS spine core. We used switches to mirror ports and capture traffic in promisciouse mode on a few dozen servers split across a few datacentres that all the traffic went througg. We had certs installed to decode https. We could get enough hardware to do this step easily, but fast enough storage was an issue, we had 1 petabyte of usable storage across all sitesn that could hold a few days of content. We aimed to get this data filtered and forwarded into our central Splunk (seperate storage) and also into our bespoke dashboards within 60s. We often lagged...

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Post by petcat »

mvc wrote: post #153
graemep wrote: post #60

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There is a lot more blocked than porn and neo-nazis. This will also allow access to sites that block access because of laws: Imgur is not accessible from the uk, nor are a lot of smaller US news sites. Ofcom are after 4 chan too.

Oh no! Not 4chan. How ever will we Europeans keep up with the latest theories about which celebrities are actually AI influencers.

Sounds like censorship is already becoming normalized in the EU and UK. Terrifying.

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Post by reactordev »

petcat wrote: post #196
reactordev wrote: post #176

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Just because your client is in Switzerland and your data center is in Germany, doesn’t mean a data center in Virginia doesn’t have a copy. https://youtu.be/JR6YyYdF8ho That was 14 years ago… We have MUCH more capabilities today.

The datacenter is in Utah, not Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

That’s cold storage

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Post by tchalla »

gpt5 wrote: post #174
sublimefire wrote: post #111

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What limits? You can do pretty much what you want but make sure you can defend yourself in the court. I feel there is a bit of a disconnect in terms where people get the news where in US you kind of expect biggest news providers to be biassed, eg Fox, hence reliance on social media. In Europe gov media is quite strong and objective, and the idea that it restricts something is odd. A great example is the banning of RT…

Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media. In Italy, people have faced criminal charges for simply criticizing the prime minister. When the government does not allow its population to freely speak against it, it's just waiting to be abused by one bad leader.

> Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media.

Germany restricts insulting individuals / your neighbour, police officer, a pastor or a minister. There’s no special law for politicians. Political criticism is protected under the Basic Law (constitution). Go ahead and be crucial about a politician’s actions but don’t insult their person’s honour or use a slur. That’s not your freedom of speech, that’s the dignity. In fact, you can even insult the government! You can say German government as the government is not a person.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by codethief »

gpt5 wrote: post #174
sublimefire wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What limits? You can do pretty much what you want but make sure you can defend yourself in the court. I feel there is a bit of a disconnect in terms where people get the news where in US you kind of expect biggest news providers to be biassed, eg Fox, hence reliance on social media. In Europe gov media is quite strong and objective, and the idea that it restricts something is odd. A great example is the banning of RT…

Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media. In Italy, people have faced criminal charges for simply criticizing the prime minister. When the government does not allow its population to freely speak against it, it's just waiting to be abused by one bad leader.

> Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media.

You're not allowed to insult anyone, https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__185.html , though the term "insult" is not nearly as broadly defined as in everyday speech. The law dates back to the 18th century, and has largely been unchanged for 150 years. I really don't understand the recent outrage over these and other laws. We have been fine.

More background: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beleidigung_(Deutschland)

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