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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Macha »

klausa wrote: post #659
lotsoweiners wrote: post #648

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You probably know this but most of those aren’t really generations. Game boy color, DSi, new 3ds are just upgrades of the same generation kinda like PS5 vs PS5 Pro.

All of those have games exclusive to them. 3DS has like ~15, though some heavy hitters (Xenoblade and Fire Emblem), DSi has like 6 no-names (and, technically, a whole lot on DSiWare); but there are many GBC-exclusive games.

Although funnily enough, in most regions Pokemon Gold and Silver were not actually GBC exclusive and would run on the original Game Boy, despite arguably being the game the GBC was most promoted for and having colour (which didn't work on the DMG, obviously) as their major features.

The Korean release of Gold and Silver, along with Crystal, did actually require a GBC.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

bg0 wrote: post #283

Has anyone played any games besides Zelda / Mario Kart that actually felt complete and worth the money. I love love love the switch but getting really demoralized by the lack of titles I can play with friends; especially online.

Xenoblade is excellent, Metroid is excellent, Kirby is excellent. There are others but those are the primary ones which come to mind for me. Obviously they're all Nintendo games but that's what you get a Nintendo system for. You don't get it because it's the best option for playing third party games.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Phrodo_00 »

azeirah wrote: post #736
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #58

I don't like the aesthetic as much as the Switch 1. Looks a little too sleek, too monochrome, not Nintendo-y enough. Other than the splash of color around the thumbsticks it looks like any number of those handheld Steam Deck-alikes that have been coming out. That said I always wait for the special Zelda editions of Nintendo's consoles, so I don't know that I have standing to complain.

I think this is aimed at a slightly older audience than the "regular" switch. This is more like a switch "pro", and I assume a switch 2 lite and such will follow. This is like the 3ds XL, which in terms of hardware was a HUUUUGGE upgrade to the 3ds, but they didn't really mention it anywhere.

What do you mean HUUUGE upgrade? The only difference between the 3DS and the 3DS XL is the battery. Same with the New 3DS XL and New 3Ds.

You might be getting confused because the New 3DS (which was a hardware upgrade) mostly sold in XL version in the US. The non-XL model was sold mostly as limited special editions.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by dietr1ch »

mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #839
dietr1ch wrote: post #588

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Nintendo does not compete on specs. They rely on the fact that fun is pretty much orthogonal to bleeding edge graphics. They use that awareness and take advantage of simpler graphics to trade off processing power for features (portability, novelty) and profit (60>=usd games). From time to time they also remind us that little hardware can do a lot if it's not running Chrome on a trench coat, and instead care is put in…

This is true. But high specs are a big win anyway if it opens up access to a bigger library of 3rd party games.

That's true, but Nintendo's counter to that is exclusive games, and they have big series like Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros. There's also newer ones that are more niche, but at least for me it's just the game where some new Smash Bros character comes from.

With exclusives games, emulation can be a problem, but many Nintendo games also rely on the novel things on their platform. For instance the Mario Party series has always tried to use something (rumble, mic, touchscreen, controller's shape).

This makes it necessary to get the console, and once you get market share it'll be worth porting and optimising games for an under-powered console (Celeste, Hollow Knight and probably every game runs worse on the switch, but it's playable). I'm not a gamedev, but it seems that nowadays it's easier than ever to port games since in practice there's fewer architectures around.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by mh- »

lostmsu wrote: post #846
mh- wrote: post #421

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Did clicking on the Rent my PC tab really try to benchmark my GPU through my browser, or did I accidentally click another button on that page inadvertently that triggered that? If the former, that's a terrible idea. If the latter, that button really needs a confirmation and explanation of what's about to happen. I'm viewing on an Intel Mac and it hung my entire computer for like 15 seconds. I didn't even connect that…

It does. Sorry about the experience, we will try to improve it. Having user confirm it is not a good option, because every click is a hassle. What we could do is first run a very short version of a smaller benchmark, and if that takes too long, don't run the main one. Then the worst case you will have a 100ms lag at this point, which is way better than 5 seconds of reading.

It's a neat feature, I just think it'd be ideal to do a confirmation first. It wouldn't be a great experience if it happened on mobile, either.

Every click is a hassle, but principal of least astonishment applies here. Literally not a soul will be expecting that to happen when casually browsing your site.

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Post by corytheboyd »

wat10000 wrote: post #594
corytheboyd wrote: post #480

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I feel like VR would have “happened with the masses” by now given that the quest is wireless, excellent quality, and cheap. Personally I think it did, and it’s a success, it’s just that it has a lower ceiling because it’s an awkward rectangle that you strap to your face. There is also, IMO, a huge software quality problem with VR. I am baffled as to why all the first person games don’t copy Alyx’s control scheme, it’…

Those limitations provide room for something revolutionary. Figure out how to do VR without a giant rectangle strapped to your face, figure out better controls, figure out motion sickness, and you’ll have a revolutionary device. For AR, I’m not thinking games, but computing in general. Glasses (or better yet, contacts) that can overlay things on your field of view could be huge. That could be the thing to displace sm…

Oh yeah that would be a great use of AR, totally agree, and feel like we’re not even that far off on this one.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by rbits »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #833
makeitdouble wrote: post #426

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The current Switch had an alternative monochrome (grey) version from the start, so I guess there's a chance the alternative version of the new one would be colorful.

It's been a while, but from my recollection that was the main version at launch. It's what I got, anyways. I don't remember the red and blue joycons showing up until later.

The switch had the red and blue from launch. In the reveal trailer they only showed the grey, but then in the switch presentation they revealed the red and blue. I don't quite remember, but I think from then on they mainly used that in marketing. It could be the same situation here, but the fact that the joycons already have a hint of blue and red makes me think this will be the only version, as it's sort of a mix between the 2 versions of the original switch.

Personally I like it. I choose the grey version of the switch, and I think making the joycons the exact same colour as the system this time looks way better. Also I like the splash of colour rather than it being entirely grey/black.

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bigstrat2003 wrote: post #833
makeitdouble wrote: post #426

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The current Switch had an alternative monochrome (grey) version from the start, so I guess there's a chance the alternative version of the new one would be colorful.

It's been a while, but from my recollection that was the main version at launch. It's what I got, anyways. I don't remember the red and blue joycons showing up until later.

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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by inyorgroove »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #833
makeitdouble wrote: post #426

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The current Switch had an alternative monochrome (grey) version from the start, so I guess there's a chance the alternative version of the new one would be colorful.

It's been a while, but from my recollection that was the main version at launch. It's what I got, anyways. I don't remember the red and blue joycons showing up until later.

I know for a fact they had the grey and colorful models on launch day, I bought the model with the red and blue joycons at mignight on launch day at my local BestBuy. The promo video in this article[1] shows some folks playing bomberman with those joycons about 2/3 in.

1: https://www.polygon.com/2017/1/13/14241960/nintendo-switch-l...

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by astrospective »

mrandish wrote: post #843
basfo wrote: post #597

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It's interesting how many people see the Switch as being in its own category rather than acknowledging it as the winner of this console generation (which I completely agree it is). Most people think the “console” battle is between PlayStation and Xbox, and that PlayStation is the winner. This is probably a big win for PlayStation’s marketing team.

> This is probably a big win for PlayStation’s marketing team. I don't have any current Gen console (nor have I played one) but as a long-time tech market "interested observer" my understanding is that XBox had a bit less raw power last Gen and tried correcting this Gen and succeeded in having a bit more raw power than PS5. However, it apparently didn't matter to the market. So it seems to be another example like Bet…

Part of the issue is Xbox segmented the market with the less powerful Series S and put constraints on releases needing to have feature parity between the two, quite a few devs have had issues with. It delayed Baldur’s Gate 3 for months until MS waived off the split screen co-op. Seems bizarre to chase power at hard and then make it harder for your devs to develop to it.

https://www.techradar.com/gaming/is-the-xbox-series-s-holdin...

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